[Kalamata]

>>Danny Denier: "I see you are still playing your hard-left “slander them if you cannot dispute them” game. Do you hate Jews, Little Joey, or only the millions of Jews who reject the apes-to-man myth?"
>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "Oh, Danny boy, now you really are just going nuts with denier anger, concocting false accusations in hopes something, anything, will stick."

I asked you a simple question, Joey. There is no need to get all snow-flake hysterical on us?

For the record, are you denying that you have been insinuating I am a holocaust denier because I refuse to worship at the altar of evolutionism? Just checking to see if you are the denier.

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>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "The fact is your denier tactics, minus their vulgarities, are the same as those I saw in Holocaust deniers nearly 20 years ago."

You are lying again, Joey. You learned that smear tactic from your far-left atheist hero, Michael Shermer, who teaches children there is no God.

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>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "Because of that, and because I love you as a fellow Christian, I'm trying to help you out -- I'm telling you exactly what you're doing wrong. That's what my Denier Rules are all about."

No, Joey. That is your modus operandi, the one you learned from the Far Left, which is, "smear them if they disagree with you." You use the same tactic the "Climate Change" cult uses. Frankly, Joey, you remind me of the left-wing cult-of-hate that congregate on Youtube, minus the vulgar language.

Ironically, Joey, those same tactics you use of, smear, smear, smear, indirectly led me to learn evolution was a giant hoax. A friend, who believed in evolution at the time, stumbled across a Youtube video loaded with hateful, cursing anti-creationists. That aroused his suspicion enough to examine, for the first time, the claims of evolutionists. It didn't take long before he realized the emperor (evolution) had no clothes. He later asked me to take a close look at the geological column; and soon thereafter I became a young earth creationist. It is all about the science, Joey. Nothing personal.

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>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "If you will study them, commit them to heart and then STOP DOING THEM, consciously, deliberately, disobey the Deniers' Rules, then you will begin to become an honest witness, not just a professional propaganda prost... ahem."

Those childish "Denier Rules" you co-opted from the Far Left fit you much better than they fit me, Joey. In fact, you are adept at the use of Leftist tactics, Joey. Who trained you?

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>>Danny Denier: "The evidence in the Holocaust museum is believable, Joey. "
>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "Not to a Holocaust denier!

I was speaking for myself, Joey, not for you.

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>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "Such people, just like you Danny boy, can literally spend all day in a museum and never once see a shred of evidence. How is that even possible, you might ask?

Evidence is evidence, Joey. If there IS NO evidence for Evolution in a museum, then only those with vivid imaginations CAN see evidence. On the other hand, if there IS evidence for the holocaust in a museum, only those with vivid imaginations CANNOT see it.

I don't have a vivid imagination, like you, Joey. I am a scientist.

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>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "Simple: all the same Jedi mind tricks you play on evolution, they play on the Holocaust.

The Far-Left uses the same Jedi mind-tricks on those who refuse to worship at the altar of the evolutionism cult that they use on those who refuse to worship at the altar of the climate change cult. They label those who refuse to bow as a "denier," or worse.

But the Truth has finally regained the upper hand, and the cultists are panicing.

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>>Danny Denier: "Foolish child."
>>Deceitful Joey wrote, "Denier Rule #7

Deceitful Child.

Mr. Kalamata

[BroJoeK]

Kalamata: Kalamata post #456: "I asked you a simple question, Joey.
There is no need to get all snow-flake hysterical on us?
For the record, are you denying that you have been insinuating I am a holocaust denier because I refuse to worship at the altar of evolutionism?
Just checking to see if you are the denier."

Oh, my baby Danny boy, in your terrible-twos-like rage you're simply bouncing from one insane accusation to another, none of them making any sense.

Yes, it's true, I have long wondered if Danny-boy is nothing more than an old Holocaust denier now retread and repurposed to evolution denial using the same Denier Tactics, "logic" and personal attacks they used?
What else could explain your insane rage, the same as theirs, at Michael Shermer?

Of course I have noticed significant differences, beginning with the worst of their vulgarity.
But not all were vulgar, indeed some Holocaust deniers considered themselves good Christians who were 100% convinced of two "facts":

1. Their own Christian German ancestors and relatives were not capable of such mass destruction.
2. "The Jews" were totally capable of mass deception.

So they believed the entire "Holo-hoax" was a product of Jewish propaganda and that is how they could spend all day in a Holocaust museum and never see any evidence!
And such denier tactics are the same ones you use to deny evolution.

So I think it's a legitimate question of how it is that Danny-boy uses the same kinds of Denier tactics if you never had any contact with such people?

Kalamata: "You are lying again, Joey.
You learned that smear tactic from your far-left atheist hero, Michael Shermer, who teaches children there is no God."

I may be sometimes mistaken, but never knowingly lie.
Here's the truth: like you, Holocaust deniers were enraged by Shermer, and just as you wish to ally with Global Warming "deniers" so Holocaust deniers were eager to ally with evolution deniers.

And like Shermer I observe the similarity in debate tactics used by Holocaust deniers and evolution deniers such as Danny Kalamata.

Kalamata: "No, Joey.
That is your modus operandi, the one you learned from the Far Left, which is, "smear them if they disagree with you."
You use the same tactic the "Climate Change" cult uses.
Frankly, Joey, you remind me of the left-wing cult-of-hate that congregate on Youtube, minus the vulgar language. "

I know nothing about such YouTube, face-chat or snap-book, whatever...
Well... then consider this curious fact: Holocaust deniers would not consider themselves to be "smeared" by association to evolution deniers, but many Global Warming "skeptics" would consider themselves smeared by any linkage to either evolution or Holocaust denial.
In other words, in the hierarchy of denials, Global Warming skeptics stand at the peak of respectability as still legitimate scientifically, while evolution denial ranks down in the pits along with Holocaust denial and, oh, say, flat-Earth people.
That's not to say you are any of those others, only that your methods & tactics are remarkably similar.

Kalamata: "Ironically, Joey, those same tactics you use of, smear, smear, smear, indirectly led me to learn evolution was a giant hoax.
A friend, who believed in evolution at the time, stumbled across a Youtube video loaded with hateful, cursing anti-creationists.
That aroused his suspicion enough to examine, for the first time, the claims of evolutionists.
It didn't take long before he realized the emperor (evolution) had no clothes.
He later asked me to take a close look at the geological column; and soon thereafter I became a young earth creationist.
It is all about the science, Joey.
Nothing personal."

I've seen nothing resembling what you claim.
I have read books on the subject and have seen nothing to seriously contradict it.
Here is another example of reasoned discourse available online.

Kalamata: "Those childish "Denier Rules" you co-opted from the Far Left fit you much better than they fit me, Joey.
In fact, you are adept at the use of Leftist tactics, Joey. Who trained you?"

That's just Denier Rule #5, which you just can't stop obeying regardless of how "childish" you pretend they are.

Kalamata: "I was speaking for myself, Joey, not for you."

And you respond to, for example, a Natural History museum precisely the same way a Holocaust denier responds to a Holocaust museum: "I SEE NOTHING!".

Kalamata: "Evidence is evidence, Joey.
If there IS NO evidence for Evolution in a museum, then only those with vivid imaginations CAN see evidence.
On the other hand, if there IS evidence for the holocaust in a museum, only those with vivid imaginations CANNOT see it.
I don't have a vivid imagination, like you, Joey.
I am a scientist."

Sure you are, riiiiiiight!
You are a scientist in precisely the same sense as Holocaust deniers claimed to be "real historians" while claiming that all other historians were just "hoax-story-ians".

Kalamata: "The Far-Left uses the same Jedi mind-tricks on those who refuse to worship at the altar of the evolutionism cult that they use on those who refuse to worship at the altar of the climate change cult.
They label those who refuse to bow as a "denier," or worse."

By the way, that constant repetition of "worship at the alter" nonsense is yet another tactic which links you to Holocaust deniers -- they were forever refusing to "worship at the alter" of Jewish historians!
It's why I think, if you didn't learn it directly from them, you did go to the same Denier University.
You were part of Denier University's Matriculated Body of Students.

Kalamata: "But the Truth has finally regained the upper hand, and the cultists are panicing."

And that is Denier Rule #13:

"Final Rule, when you've been totally defeated, when your lies are exposed, when your "logic" is revealed as nonsense, when nothing you say is believable, then Declare Total Victory! Announce that your side has already won and your despicable opponents are fading into history, nothing is left of their arguments but your victory dance in their football end zone."