I’ve seen proponents of vaccines defending against anti-vaxxers using much the same language patterns and right back att’em as well but I’m not convinced that Pro vaxxers as well as anti vaxxers are holocaust deniers just because they use similar patterns of speech as various holocaust deniers do."
You make a valid point, and it's the reason I've gone to such lengths to spell out exactly what I mean in calling out Danny Denier Kalamata for illegitimate practices which others also use for nefarious purposes.
You'll find version 3.0 of my "Rules for Deniers" in my post #420 above.
The fact that Holocaust deniers I remember from nearly 20 years ago also used those same tactics might be irrelevant, the tactics themselves are illegitimate, regardless.
I've also carefully pointed out that while some Holocaust deniers were extremely vulgar, Kalamata is not, though he is no less insulting than they were.
I've also noticed that, so far as I can tell, to his credit Kalamata has not resorted to fake quotes or even faked contexts.
Indeed, his quotes are even honest enough that in one notable series of exchanges, I was able to use Kalamata's own quotes to make an opposing argument!
That is so unexpected it leads me to wonder if he doesn't have a "research assistant" supplying quotes, the "assistant" being more honest than Kalamata?
mdmathis6 "What does the subject of the holocaust have to do with the subject of evolution vs direct creation by God anyway?
On second thought, it might have a lot to do with it based on Nazi propaganda and their views on racial purity and superiority!
Still I don’t see where Kalamata has advocated extermination of evolution supporters or even you BroJoeK!"
Kalamata himself answers your question in, for example, his maniacal fixation on author Michael Shermer, who has written books on both Holocaust denial and Evolution denial, explicitly comparing the two.
Shermer drives Kalamata bananas and he's spent endless words trashing Shermer up one side and down the other.
On the other hand, iirc, Kalamata has explicitly posted that Holocaust deniers were dishonest and that he never met one.
I take that to also imply he never was one, even though his responses are so quick & fluidly similar to those deniers I highly suspect he's had a lifetime of practice at it.
Regardless, imho, denial tactics are the same and amount to effective admission that you have no better arguments.
So, I ask you to think of it this way: if you and Kalamata will read my "Rules for Deniers", commit them to memory and then Stop Doing Them, it will make you better human beings and more worthy Christians, I think.
mdmathis6 "Kalamata is eating you alive...stop digging the hole deeper!"
Naw, you just love what he says and so you literally can't see the weaknesses in his arguments.
In fact his arguments are total nonsense bolstered by heavy doses of insult, ad hominem & mockery.