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In an age of terror, what is the responsibility of Islam?
The Aspen Beat ^ | April 21, 2019 | Glenn K. Beaton

Posted on 04/28/2019 3:41:23 PM PDT by robowombat

Glenn K. Beaton: In an age of terror, what is the responsibility of Islam? Opinion | April 21, 2019

The Aspen Beat

I remember September 11, 2001. Terrorists hijacked civilian airlines and flew them into the two World Trade towers and the Pentagon. A fourth plane crashed into a Pennsylvania field after the hijacked passengers heroically overcame their captors.

Late in the day, our phone rang. It was a friend informing us that four of the passengers on the plane flown into the Pentagon were a couple with whom we were friends and their two young daughters.

At that point, I sat on the stairs, buried my head in my hands, and wept — for my friends and for the other 2,992 dead.

So much has happened since. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Boston Marathon massacre. Videos showing men beheaded and women burned alive in cages. Terror in Paris, again and again. It’s horrific savagery committed in the name of Islam.

So are all Muslims terrorists? No.

There are approximately 1.8 billion Muslims in the world — about a quarter of the world population. Even if a million are terrorists (and I’m certain the real number is far fewer), that’s less than one-tenth of 1%.

So is it fair to blame 9/11 on all Muslims? No.

The vast majority of Muslims had nothing whatever to do with 9/11, and were as appalled by it as I was. In fact, a large percentage of today’s Muslims had not even been born on 9/11. Blaming today’s Muslims for 9/11 is like blaming today’s Germans for the Holocaust.

I posted my sentiments about this on Facebook a few weeks ago, and received over 800 comments. Many people disagreed with me. A few expressed raw bigotry, and I was forced to unfriend them. But many others were worth considering.

One point they made is that a disproportionate number of modern terror attacks are by Muslims acting in the name of Islam. That’s true. But it doesn’t take a logician to recognize that this point alone doesn’t go far toward indicting Islam. It’s like saying that because nearly all acts of terror are committed by men, nearly all men are terrorists.

Another point made by some is that Islam as a religion advocates violence against non-believers whom it calls “infidels.” That’s also true. The Quran does urge violence against infidels. But so does the Old Testament, which urges violence by Hebrews against non-Hebrews.

Implicitly acknowledging that there’s been violence in Judaism and Christianity, some of those commenters observed that they have largely put their violence behind them while Islam seems not to have.

Well, yes and no. The fact that well over 99.9% of Muslims are peaceful people suggests that Islam, too, has largely put its violence behind it.

Furthermore, violence and even terrorism are not exactly extinct in Christianity — witness the violent terrorism against civilians in Northern Ireland within my lifetime between two sects of Christianity.

And in India, it’s Muslims who are typically the victims of religious violence, perpetrated mainly by the majority Hindus.

All that said, the data does suggest that today’s backward Muslim countries tend to be more violent. But I submit that the reason is that they are backward, not that they are Muslim. When Christian Europe was a backward society in the Middle Ages conducting pogroms against the Jews, the Muslims in the Middle East were leaders in mathematics.

Here’s the strongest point offered in response to my Facebook post. Peaceful Muslims are often reticent in condemning violence and extremists who engage in it. Many Muslim organizations did condemn 9/11 and other terrorism, and for that they deserve credit. But too often, they fall silent or issue an equivocal criticism.

For example, a newly elected Muslim congresswoman whom America rescued from violence and starvation in Somalia, and who seems to think that the problem in Washington is that too many legislators owe “allegiance” to the Jews, recently referenced 9/11. The words she chose were “some people did something.”

That offends me. What happened on 9/11 was not just that “some people did something.”

What happened was that psychopathic Muslims in a perversion of their religion murdered thousands of innocent men, women and children in the bloodiest attack on American soil since the Civil War.

Still, I won’t blame all Muslims for that attack or for one congresswoman’s stupid remark about it. I firmly believe that to do so would dishonor my decent friends who died that day.

That leaves me with the question posed at the outset. What is the responsibility of that congresswoman and other Muslims in today’s world of terror?

It’s this: They need to step up. They need to man up. They need to Allah up. The many decent and devout ones need to distance themselves from — nay, they need to condemn, ostracize and, if necessary, destroy — the few psychopaths.

In short, the responsibility of Muslims is the same as the responsibility of Jews, Christians and all other people of faith and civilized secularists. In the battle against violent bigotry, there’s no middle ground. You’re either with us or against us.

Be with us. Be our brothers and sisters in our battle for humanity. We want you.

If that’s not reason enough to be with us, then be with us just to be on the winning side. Because we will indeed win, I promise you.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; muslims
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A good example of the problem faced by westerners and Islam. Most cannot grasp the depth of the disconnect between Islam and the rest.
1 posted on 04/28/2019 3:41:23 PM PDT by robowombat
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According to their religion, their only responsibility is to warn you that you will never have peace until you adopt IzLame and to conquer by force all those who do not adopt IzLame.
2 posted on 04/28/2019 3:45:54 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: robowombat

99%. Rest is nutballs


3 posted on 04/28/2019 3:49:46 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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Wow, it used to be 10% “hijacked islime”. Now they want us to believe only 0.01 % has hijacked islime? Laughable at best.


4 posted on 04/28/2019 3:52:43 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: robowombat
"The vast majority of Muslims Germans had nothing whatever to do with 9/11 WW II.

Yet, we still De-Nazified Germany and rebuilt the German government from the ground up to permanently rid the world of the Nazi scourge.

5 posted on 04/28/2019 3:53:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: robowombat

From the Third Commandment, Christians aren’t to do evil in the name of God.

In islam, its practitioners must do evil in the name of allah.

Kill or be killed.


6 posted on 04/28/2019 3:56:37 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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>>Blaming today’s Muslims for 9/11 is like blaming today’s Germans for the Holocaust.

No, it is not.

The Germans have discarded the ideology, Nazism, that led directly to the Holocaust.

Islam at core is a totalitarian murderous political ideology as much as it is a religion. Too many are unwilling to look at the evidence and come to the obvious conclusion.


7 posted on 04/28/2019 4:00:08 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: robowombat
Author is extremely unfair in saying the Old Testament advocated killing non-Hebrews and using this to condemn Judeo-Christians as equally violent to Islam. The referenced passages only deal with the conquest of Canaan, and are not a universal command applicable today. Islam tells its adherents they must hate and destroy all who reject their unjust religion. It promises them a false peace on earth and a false “paradise” of fornication in the afterlife as a reward for their service of hate. Jesus teaches that love is the foundation of all law. Love will overcome hate, but hatred destroys itself.
8 posted on 04/28/2019 4:00:16 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The Germans still hate the Jews. However, they had to import a bunch of Muslims to do their Holocausting for them.


9 posted on 04/28/2019 4:03:14 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: robowombat

They must undergo reformation like the other religions or face the consequences


10 posted on 04/28/2019 4:03:32 PM PDT by onona (It is often wise to allow a person a graceful path.)
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To: Missouri gal
You are correct. This is from an Aspen, Colorado paper so it is about as far as ‘moderate’ libs will go in confronting Islam. Also it represents the generalized dislike to hatred for Christianity that the secularist liberals have. I may be secular but I clearly understand Christianity is going to be the only really powerful cohering factor that will keep our society from crashing.
11 posted on 04/28/2019 4:04:33 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: robowombat

The taqiyya speaker says:

There are approximately 1.8 billion Muslims in the world - about a quarter of the world population. Even if a million are terrorists (and I’m certain the real number is far fewer), that’s less than one-tenth of 1%.


Most estimate give the number as 20% are hard core jihadis - the 1.8 billion is over inflated as is the usual 1.3 billion number - the real number is closer to 1.2 billion.

Using his inflated numbers that would make it about 360 million jihadis

Be that as it may, Those other muslims pay mosque taxes part of which goes directly to support jihad and a lot more goes to various groups like Hamas.

So the maxim is: those who want to kill you today and backed up by those who want to kill you tomorrow.


12 posted on 04/28/2019 4:04:39 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: robowombat

Glenn has been Beaton by Islam. A surrender monkey.


13 posted on 04/28/2019 4:11:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: robowombat

A point.

“Another point made by some is that Islam as a religion advocates violence against non-believers whom it calls “infidels.” That’s also true. The Quran does urge violence against infidels. But so does the Old Testament, which urges violence by Hebrews against non-Hebrews.”

This is a shallow analysis. False leading too.

The Koran urges individuals as well as communities with what amounts to a general principal applicable in all circumstances whatsoever to wage jihad, and arguably take it upon themselves to do something about those that they imagine are displeasing to Allah.

The Hebrew Scriptured do not establish such general principals commending Israelites to cross the whole world and slaughter people in the name of YHVH. They do deal with specific groups who moreover are described as having reached a particular state of spiritual affairs ... not to describe some situation where Israel was to treat others accordingly if they seemed that bad but only to say WHY those SPECIFIC people were to be treated that way.

As for the rest, the Law commands that wrongdoing be dealt with by the community through a legal system that involves certain standards, such as needing witnesses whose testimony agrees in every respect.

So these two do not in fact line up at all.


14 posted on 04/28/2019 4:11:53 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: robowombat

JIhad

The universalism of Islam, in its all-embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political, if not strictly military. . . . The Jihad, accordingly, may be stated as a doctrine of a permanent state of war, not continuous fighting.”— Majid Khadduri

Above from...

The Quranic Concept of War - JOSEPH C. MYERS

To begin to understand what civilization is up against...

https://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/Parameters/articles/06winter/win-ess.pdf

JIhadis have made tremendous gains around the world since 911.

Witness current events.

Civilization’s gains???...not so much.

Who will stop them?

From article...

“If that’s not reason enough to be with us, then be with us just to be on the winning side. Because we will indeed win, I promise you.”

HOW?


15 posted on 04/28/2019 4:12:02 PM PDT by PGalt
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Another problem with the author’s false dichotomy between muslims and the koran vs. Jews and the Old Testament is the fact that zero Jews have used the OT to justify violent acts for many centuries. OTOH muslims have been using the koran to justify their violence non-stop from Mohammad until today. 1,400 uninterrupted years of jihad.


16 posted on 04/28/2019 4:18:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

And Germans still blame themselves. They cannot bring themselves to discriminate and themselves from hostile and exploitative immigrants. Muslims will never do that.


17 posted on 04/28/2019 4:21:53 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: robowombat
I kept this from 2015 - how true ? who knows. Generally true ? yep

We Can't seem to Pin Point The Problem!!!

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The Underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

But:

Muslims living with Hindus=Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem

MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

**********SO THIS LEADS TO *************

They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

******** So, where are they happy? **********

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in Norway
They're happy in India
They're happy in Canada &
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame?

Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves,
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in
to be like the countries they came from where they were
unhappy and finally they will get hammered!

  ******** So, What are their Major Organizations? ********

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS/ISIL : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION

AND A LOT MORE!

And We just can't figure out who's causing the problem.
  But at least President Obama knows it's not the Muslims.

. NOW WE WANT TO BRING IN 180,000 MORE
MUSLIM "REFUGEES" INTO OUR COUNTRY!!
ARE WE THAT CRAZY ????

18 posted on 04/28/2019 4:22:53 PM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: robowombat

“Aloha SnackBar, Baby!”


19 posted on 04/28/2019 4:26:49 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: stylin19a

Yup,


20 posted on 04/28/2019 4:28:54 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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