Hate to ask and don't want to be pushy,
but could y'all please really try to
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Posted on 04/12/2019 1:35:50 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
He’s a clown here in Washington state also
Nah, I like girls.
I have a question about aluminum cans. Do beer cans have to be rinsed as I would rinse a can that had tomatos in it? Isn’t any trace of alcohol remaining in a beer can already clean?
He is a political environmentalist. Empty headed on the science and engineering questions.
My pontificating ass of a brother was smart mouthing me about recycling...
I asked him ‘What do you do with your dryer lint?”
He huffed & puffed & said—I throw it away—just like everyone else.
I told him “I RECYCLED IT BY USING IT TO START HE FIRES IN MY WOOD STOVE-—WHICH HEATED THE WHOLE 2553 SQ FT LOG HOUSE I OWNED.” He stopped his berating.
“Stop making us recycle everything except aluminum cans. Because recycling anything else is a pure money loser.”
metals of all types are worth recycling, as is clean corrugated cardboard, which is made from paper made using the kraft process, and possibly clean office paper ... right now it appears that not too much else can be economically recycled, even container glass ...
“Do beer cans have to be rinsed “
not really. same with aluminum soda cans. the re-melting and refine process pretty much easily eliminates minuscule contaminates ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_recycling#Ingot_production_using_reverberatory_furnaces
Good summary of the recycling problem.
But it is even worse than that.
Recycled material is “owned” by the company as soon as it puts out a dumpster to collect the inbound trash. And, bad trash = worse recycling” raw material. Colored glass with clear glass? Can’t melt it without decontaminating it and separating the colored glass. Plastic in there? Got to remove plastic, paper, paint, gunk in the glass.
Steel and aluminum and brass? Worth recycling. But you don’t get good alloys from the junk being melted! You get trash steel of unknown alloys, no control of copper (from melted wires and motors), no control of the plastic s and paint and melted coatings!
Paper? Better burn it as fuel. Cardboard? Burn it - half will be cardboard boxes filled with everything else. The rest? A mix of paper and boxes and plastic and glass and coffee grounds and rotten food and rats and dead mice and possums.
Rinse an aluminum can to protect yourself and your garage or kitchen.
Empty the primary liquid into the sink.
Rinse once with 3-4 ounces of water, pour that out.
98-99-99.5% of the original liquid is gone now.
Add in 2-3 oz of water again, swirl once or twice, and pour that out.
Now, over 98-99.8% of the original liquid is gone.
After you squish the can into a recycling container or plastic liner, the bugs are less likely to want to live in the can and breed more bugs.
Can’t promise no bugs, but it will be better and will have no odors in the recycling container.
Let’s say somebody let the original liquid dry out. Do the same, but add 1-3 more ounces of water, shake longer the first time, shake longer the second time, and add a third small rinse.
This guy is a total joke in our state. Even the lefties mock him.
Once upon a time I used to work at Microsoft. I would eat in their cafeteria and would watch with amused indifference as the worker drones would dutifully separate their debris into the myriad of one recycle containers. One particular day my buddy and I went out back for a smoke after lunch. It was there where we noticed the garbageman grabbing all the various containers - and dumping them all into one central bin.
So much for recycling (but I’m sure it made the Microsofties feeeeeeeeeeeel good!)
Way to go MEL (as in Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles).
HARRUMPH, HARRUMPH!
Lots of such stories are coming -- "Jay Inslee Stumped By Chinese finger puzzles" for example. Thanks Robert A Cook PE.
‘You just believe or you will be tortured and murdered.’
nonsense is nonsense regardless of its political origin...
It is interesting how different collection contractors manage all the separation.
Here in our locale, we have three separate collections. The two commercial pick ups are one for paper stuff (from newsprint to everything else) & and every type of cardboard, and the other is for a combination of plastics, glass, and metal (minus aluminum - not usually magnetic, so it is harder to sort). The city picks up paper-bagged leaves & lawn refuse & garden trimmings including small branches.
In a city in the Midwest I was in, I was helping a cousin get her recycle pick-up arranged. The contractor had a local site you could deliver the stuff if you wanted to, as long as you separated everything. The different kinds of paper had to be separated from each other (”plain paper”, like what you type on, then newsprint of any kind, then books and magazines. When separating the cardboard you included all the “brown” paper (of the type used for grocery bags), but not the cardboard packaging from usual household products - that was separate to itself. Magazines and books went together. Plastics went together. Metal without the aluminum. Colored glass separate from clear glass. HOWEVER, in making one trip to do that, I noticed they did little policing of what folks put in the designated dumpsters & some folks didn’t care that they were “contaminating” a dumpster.
Yet, when I arranged for them to the pick up at my cousin’s house, for which they would send us, to keep at the house, one of their recycle bins on wheels, I asked about the separation of the stuff. They said to just put every kind of material together in the bin. So, they had to have either some sort of sorting operation of their own, or they had some contractor that bought the “mixed” goods from them.
I also read that while glass is the easiest to recycle, there are big complaints on the receiving end that no one is keeping the glass separation clean, that too much of it arrives at the end-user with plastics and metals mixed in with the glass. Some have been refusing deliveries.
Recycling is expensive, but landfills have expenses beyond their initial cost of dumping. Like where can you put another landfill?? In some places getting an answer for that has meant shipping trash out of state or out of the country. Then you have the long term cost, and some environmental concerns regarding the care of the landfill and when, way down the road, could anything be put on top of the landfill.
NYC tried to get out of the problem by dumping it all in the ocean off Staten Island. Now I think most NYC trash is hauled to landfills in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Virginia.
Some day other states are going to start refusing trash from out of their state, I expect, and everyone is going to have to resolve to make local solutions. I expect it will involve local separation of material, sorting & mixing, incineration, composting and selling “clean” (& separated) materials that can be recycled and for whom a locale can get willing buyers. I imagine the willing buyers will be more demanding as to how clean the material must be.
There is no way around it. Recycling or not costs, and we can either consume less or quit complaining about the cost. The stuff has to go somewhere.
WE have low water dishwashers that don't clean, toilets that don't flush, clothes washers that leave detergent in clothes, city bike paths for nonexistent bikers that tie up traffic...
‘Elites’ buy their way out of what they impose on the rest of us... AND they'll do the same with their ‘medicare for all’ scam...I'm surprised CNN would be surprised... this blowhard didn't have an answer.
Who’s going to tell the idiot all those disposable diapers will have to be eliminated? 500 yrs to decompose. Only Seniors know what Cloth reusable diapers are. Or the # of ways you can use the worn out ones.
We had glass soda bottles we collected a nickle a bottle for turning in, that was our candy money. We kept the streets clean of them.
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