Posted on 01/18/2019 2:23:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux
BTW, what planet are you from?
Is that the best you can do?
All those hierarchies forget conversion. From Plato to Jesus, you need conversion. “we” have known this for a long time.
It’s not about conversion. It’s about what motivates people.
The purpose is to know what carrot to be dangled and when to keep people interested in producing.
Noted. How about management education, psychologists, and foreign policy makers instead of ‘we’?
And the left.
It was from everybody, well, except you. I first learned it in a course at York University in Canada called Organizational Change and Development. I don’t recall them being leftist.
Why would I trust people I have nothing in common with?
It’s trite, like a perpetual motion on the violin, but a useful textbook filler. Nowadays, DNA is the real mother lode for money makers and imperial supervisors. But hey, some cornflakes along the way to divinization, perge modo!
Sure it’s trite. So is the movie Citizen Kane, because it broke ground on so many movie-making conventions that we take for granted today. It’s a ho-hum flick now, but that’s because we’re used to seeing what was new back then.
Ah, like evolution! Just love it. No wonder Descrates exclaimed of the ancients “je quitte entierement”!
What does that mean?
The French? Descartes said about the ancients, “I’m done with ‘em.”
Okay, thanks. My French stops at “voulez vous coucher avec moi?”
About that transcendence: universals have been considered at least in two ways. And this concerns the two sources of those universals.
First, there are those who subscribe to universals from a source of truth higher than, and independent of, man. This already holds the stage with Aeschylus and Sophocles, before Plato engaged the debate in the person of Socrates.
Then, there are those who subscribe to universals (after Occam, if you will) as a part and parcel of "common reason." This takes the stage after the denial or loss of a source of truth higher than, and independent of man. This is the enterprise of common reason via Descartes and Kant and culminating in Hegel. more here
Let me guess, if one should say Maslow or Kant is atheist, one would immediately counter, that Kant was Protestant and Maslow was, among other things, devout to his science "as a God."
How many gods are there, after all? Well, it makes all the difference in the world if you want a "common good." That's what trust is for, right?
I confess to having lost the gist of this thread.
You lost me at ‘what planet are you from.’
If it helps cut to the chase, I am a conservative leaning libertarian existentialist.
I think some busy politicians recognize this, so they've endorsed religion, like Merkel and Putin have, for socio-political purposes. That's fantasy when it's not totalitarian.
W&L
any functional country...
Has functional borders with a rational immigration policy
Has a justice system fully subordinate to the rule of law
Has a tax system capable of funding adequate infrastructure
Has a Dept of Defense dedicated to preserving the border and facilitating productive international trade
Has a moral philosophy of subordination of the state to the natural rights of the person
That country can issue debt that will be paid back, that anyone else in the world will want to hold
That country wlll be permitted business anywhere it chooses
That country will be able to pick and choose selectively from whom its “friends, associates and business partners” around the world will be
It will not be socialist; nor will be it be the current socialist-corporate/fascist mishmash into which we have allowed ourselves to evolve
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