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First Circuit Court of Appeals Rule No Right to Bear Arms Outside the Home
Ammoland ^ | 2 November, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/08/2018 10:09:02 AM PST by marktwain

On 2 November 2018, the First Circuit Court of Appeals held the Second Amendment effectively does not apply outside the home.  From uscourts.gov:

This case involves a constitutional challenge to the Massachusetts firearms licensing statute, as implemented in the communities of Boston and Brookline. All of the individual plaintiffs sought and received licenses from one of those two communities to carry firearms in public. The licenses, though, were restricted: they allowed the plaintiffs to carry firearms only in relation to certain specified activities but denied them the right to carry firearms more generally. 

The plaintiffs say that the Massachusetts firearms licensing statute, as implemented in Boston and Brookline, violates the Second Amendment. The district court disagreed, and so do we. Mindful that “the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited,” District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 626 (2008), we hold that the challenged regime bears a substantial relationship to important governmental interests in promoting public safety and crime prevention without offending the plaintiffs' Second Amendment rights. Accordingly, we affirm the district court's entry of summary judgment for the defendants. In the last analysis, the plaintiffs simply do not have the right” to carry arms for any sort of confrontation” or “for whatever purpose” they may choose. Id. at 595, 626 (emphasis omitted). 

The Court specifically said the decision applies to both open and concealed carry of handguns. They reserved the power to infringe on concealed carry more than open carry.

Judge Selya wrote the decision for the unanimous three-judge panel. They held that allowing police to decide if a citizen has a “need” to carry a gun outside the home allows sufficient

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 1stcircus; 2ndamendment; banglist; bearingarms; firstcircus; lawsuit; ma; massachusetts; nra; ruling; secondamendment
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To: marktwain

And Maine and new Hampshire will ignore them.


21 posted on 11/08/2018 10:16:59 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy UP!)
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To: shelterguy

Likewise. Hey, it’ts where I live. :)


22 posted on 11/08/2018 10:17:04 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Reno89519
What am I missing here?

(A) Living in Massachusetts
(B) Poor legal representation for the plaintiff
(C) Judicial activism

23 posted on 11/08/2018 10:17:26 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Carlucci
the SCOTUS ALMOST ruled the exact same thing. ONE vote saved the 2A in Heller v DC. Read the dissenting opinions, and you’ll freak out!

How did this circuit court not rely on the settled law in Heller v DC?

Because stare decisis only applies to Roe v. Wade.

24 posted on 11/08/2018 10:17:33 AM PST by Dahoser
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To: marktwain

It’ll be appealed and overturned.


25 posted on 11/08/2018 10:18:03 AM PST by Snowybear
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To: marktwain

The very definition of “bear arms” is that you can carry outside the home. If the 1st Circuit ruling is adopted, the US will have the same “gun laws” as Mexico.


26 posted on 11/08/2018 10:18:12 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: marktwain

Well, good thing there wasn’t any 1st Circuit version of the 2A around when the Minutemen were mustering. They’d have had to leave their muskets, rifles, tomahawks, pistols, etc at home.


27 posted on 11/08/2018 10:18:54 AM PST by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: marktwain
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Nope, nothing about inside or outside the home.

28 posted on 11/08/2018 10:18:58 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: marktwain

Lawless judge such as these need to be removed from the bench.


29 posted on 11/08/2018 10:19:16 AM PST by Revel
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To: marktwain

Samuel Whittemore is PISSED!

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/whittemore.html


30 posted on 11/08/2018 10:19:31 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Dahoser

Or Obergefell v. Hodges


31 posted on 11/08/2018 10:19:52 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year)
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To: Snowybear

It will be ignored.


32 posted on 11/08/2018 10:19:56 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy UP!)
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To: marktwain

So judge asshole says I can’t defend myself outside my house!?

Tyranny is draped in black robes. Just like tyranny had a crown on his head.

5.56mm


33 posted on 11/08/2018 10:20:25 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: marktwain

I bet everyone on that court has a armed guard.


34 posted on 11/08/2018 10:21:20 AM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: sickoflibs

transport rules and required for jobs....


So a gun in a locked safe at home but never loaded or brought out or taken anywhere or fired in any jurisdiction satisfies the 2nd Amendment?

Not from where I read it.


35 posted on 11/08/2018 10:21:49 AM PST by frank ballenger ("End vote fraud,noncitizens & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“If the 1st Circuit ruling is adopted, the US will have the same “gun laws” as Mexico.”


Uh, not here in Texas we won’t. Our laws are far from perfect in this regard, but we’re NOT going backwards in this area.


36 posted on 11/08/2018 10:22:12 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Snowybear
It’ll be appealed and overturned.

Meanwhile the decision should be duly ignored.

37 posted on 11/08/2018 10:22:20 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: VanDeKoik

Here in WA State, after a 100 yrs or more, the Supremes here decided the death penalty was unconstitutional. Meanwhile abortion...


38 posted on 11/08/2018 10:22:20 AM PST by Professional
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To: HombreSecreto

I had to look it up, but yes, we’re thinking the same.


39 posted on 11/08/2018 10:22:38 AM PST by Dahoser
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To: marktwain

The earth is my home.


40 posted on 11/08/2018 10:23:17 AM PST by Eagles6
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