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Right Seeks Unprecedented Convention to Amend Constitution
Associated Press ^ | November 3rd 2018 | MATT SEDENSKY

Posted on 11/03/2018 3:05:27 PM PDT by Jacquerie

NEW YORK (AP) — Whatever success Republicans have amassed in taking control of all three branches of U.S. government, and whatever fate awaits them as midterm elections near, some on the right are working to cement change by amending the Constitution. And to the mounting alarm of others on all parts of the spectrum, they want to bypass the usual process.

They’re pushing for an unprecedented Constitutional convention of the states. While opponents are afraid of what such a convention would do, supporters say it is the only way to deal with the federal government’s overreach and ineptitude.

“They literally see this as the survival of the nation,” said Karla Jones, director of the federalism task force at the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council, which represents state lawmakers and offers guidance and model legislation for states to call a convention under the Constitution’s Article V.

Among the most frequently cited changes being sought: amendments enforcing a balanced federal budget, establishing term limits for members of Congress, and repealing the 17th Amendment, which put the power of electing the Senate in the hands of the public instead of state legislatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; articlev; caselaw; conventionofstates; cos; gramsci; originalintent; repealthe17th
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To: arrogantsob

You can figure out a better way to pay down the debt or your children can face their eventually Venezuelan poverty.

I think mine works.


21 posted on 11/03/2018 3:33:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things. It could go the other way just as easily.

And is likely to - there are far too many people on the Republican side who love the power of the state far more than they love personal freedom. Combine them with Democrats and this is a recipe for a radical revision of the Constitution which benefits no one but statists. I can't believe this is something the "right" seeks.
22 posted on 11/03/2018 3:35:57 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Jacquerie

The Judiciary did not interview Dr Fraud and removed a club from the Goebbellsmedia to whack them with, it had nothing to do with courage. The woman who examined her elicited all the lies one would want.

Grassley (who isn’t a lawyer) played this perfectly.


23 posted on 11/03/2018 3:36:01 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things? It could go the other way just as easily.
Because they are, for the most part, hopelessly naive. And it would go the other way almost at the outset.

Almost 10 years ago I wrote about this nutty idea and the likely outcomes. Back then things were saner ... one could only imagine the nuttery which would come out of such an event today.

If you care to read it ... The US Constitutional Convention of 2009 (the Wise Ones refered to are the talking heads, the learned experts found on almost any outlet like PBS and so forth.

24 posted on 11/03/2018 3:36:57 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: arrogantsob

I’m sorry that I misunderstood you. I took your comment as being that my plan would impoverish the US. That didn’t seem right to me. :)

Carry on.


25 posted on 11/03/2018 3:39:00 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: semimojo

Agree. Its up to the states to reassert their sovereignty. Thanks to a couple of early sixties scotus decisions that did enormous damage, state senate districts (one man one vote) are of near equal populations that disregard rural interests. It is entirely possible our democratized state legislatures will not step up to the plate and do what is necessary.


26 posted on 11/03/2018 3:39:44 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

Jacquerie wrote: “A COS can recommend structural changes, like repeal of the 17th Amendment, to keep and expandPDJT’s reforms.”

Takes 3/4 ths of the states to ratify an amendment. Do you honestly believe that 38 states would vote for any of these amendments favored by the right? All of the blue states wouldn’t and they’d try to propose amendments cancelling things like the 2d amendment. Or, they would take up Obama’s stance that the constitution ought to guarantee things like universal health care, a living wage, open borders.


27 posted on 11/03/2018 3:41:44 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: PIF

The Framers were nuts? Revolution rather than peaceful means is the only way to restore liberty?


28 posted on 11/03/2018 3:42:21 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jonty30

We possess a nearly infinite amount of resources/assets which is never considered when calculating our “debt”. How much are the coal fields out west worth? How much is the Grand Canyon worth? Or the oil fields? Precious metals? Land (most of several states is federal land).

Considering the financial side of things and ignoring the real side is not good thinking.


29 posted on 11/03/2018 3:45:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Jacquerie

I am with you on Repeal of the 17th Amendment! You can trace the growth of government and out of control spending to this outdated punishment of the states.


30 posted on 11/03/2018 3:47:42 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Artemis Webb
Why is it that so many conservatives believe that if a Constitutional Convention were held that WE would get our way on things. It could go the other way just as easily.

I fear our Constitution would end up looking like the European constitution, with thousand of pages, trying to detail everything.

31 posted on 11/03/2018 3:47:59 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Arthur McGowan; Arthur Wildfire! March; arthurus; ...

12: AL, AK, AZ, FL, GA, IN, LA, MO, ND, OK, TN, TX.

For a Convention of the States dedicated to Georgia’s application language, which would re-balance citizens’ rights versus federal power and state power, the count is 12 down, 22 to go.

For a Convention of the States dedicated to a balanced budget amendment only, the count is 30 down, 4 to go.

32 posted on 11/03/2018 3:48:54 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Jonty30

Your plan is subtantially the same as Hamilton’s. That is what the Sinking Fund does. There is a reason Hamilton is our greatest Statesman.


33 posted on 11/03/2018 3:49:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Jacquerie

It was touch and go as to whether the Constitution was to be ratified.

Alexander Hamilton is the reason it was.


34 posted on 11/03/2018 3:52:25 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Agree. The prime talent of libs is lying, cheating, and all other things necessary to get folks of their own kind on committees, college campi, congress, etc.

These clowns will take charge of a convention and change the constitution to their benefit.

Afterwards: civil war.

One which will make CW-1 appear as an amateur show.


35 posted on 11/03/2018 3:53:09 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Artemis Webb

“It could go the other way just as easily.”

It already is going the other way. The leftist controlled corrupt courts are interrupting the Constitution to say whatever they want it to say. IOW, as Levin says, we’re in a post Constitutional period in America.


36 posted on 11/03/2018 3:53:11 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: DugwayDuke

I know that America came to its senses in 2016. I am hopeful of the Tuesday outcome. I know that America responds to PDJT, and am further hopeful that he leads the effort to a COS.

Just as we didn’t dive into tyranny immediately after passage of the 17A, it will take probably decades to turn around our horrid condition. The first reasonable task is to show that a COS will not runaway. Let the civics lessons begin!

The Left has corrupted just about all standing institutions. It has had less luck with the federal electoral college, and I doubt they’ll have any more success with a federal COS.


37 posted on 11/03/2018 3:54:09 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Da Coyote

Do you equate a COS with Congress?


38 posted on 11/03/2018 3:56:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

“they want to bypass the usual process.”

Stopped reading right there. “Usual” is a code word for ignoring Article V, just like intentionally misrepresenting the first paragraph of the 14th Amendment.

And other amendments too...

5.56mm


39 posted on 11/03/2018 4:00:39 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Artemis Webb
There is precedent for it "going the other way." See Constitutional Convention, 1787.

The Convention had been officially called to revise the existing Articles of Confederation, many delegates had much bigger plans. Men like James Madison and Alexander Hamilton wanted to create a new government rather than fix the existing one.

40 posted on 11/03/2018 4:02:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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