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King Corn is pushing a bogus ethanol “demand destruction” story. Don’t buy it
hotair.com ^ | 9/11/2018 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 09/11/2018 10:03:04 AM PDT by rktman

There’s been something of an underreported war going on between the ethanol lobby (King Corn) and the EPA for the past year. While President Trump has failed to entirely kill off the Renewable Fuel Standard, or even cut back on the amounts of ethanol that the government forces the energy industry to blend into the gasoline supply, the EPA has offered at least some small measure of relief in the form of waivers for smaller refineries of older design. But even that limited measure has enraged those profiting from this scheme. Now they’ve concocted a study which claims to show “demand destruction” in the ethanol market as a result of those waivers. One of their biggest lobbying groups has been pushing it out on Twitter this week.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: additive; cornpops; effinall
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Ruh roh! You know you don't mess with peoples money dag nab it. Cornpops for everyone. Corn belongs in cereal, not my tank.
1 posted on 09/11/2018 10:03:04 AM PDT by rktman
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GOP could end this buy scheduling an early Super Tuesday with primaries in states that matter, and threatening to not seat delegates from Iowa if they hold a caucus before that date.

I am tired of having my engine destroyed because somebody needs to win the Hawkeye Cauci every four years.


2 posted on 09/11/2018 10:09:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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You mean that those who aren’t FORCED to use your product might not want to?

Too bad, so sad.

If the crap was genuinely useful, it would HAVE a market already, not a government mandated use.


3 posted on 09/11/2018 10:10:19 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You’ll note the strident ethanol opponent Ted Cruz won the Iowa Caucuses last time around.


4 posted on 09/11/2018 10:10:42 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: rktman

First Rule of Civilization:

DON’T BURN YOUR FOOD..........................


5 posted on 09/11/2018 10:13:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon.......Timelines change. Aug 16)
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To: Don W

Ethanol destroyed carb in 77 Monaco and a bunch of small engines yard eqpt of mine.

Burning food in cars or stoves is wrong and stupid.


6 posted on 09/11/2018 10:14:43 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: jjotto
ethanol opponent Ted Cruz won the Iowa Caucuses last time around.

Yes, but it incentivizes everyone in Congress to aspires to win this to keep voting yea year after year after year after....


7 posted on 09/11/2018 10:15:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Don W
Ethanol does have a useful function:


8 posted on 09/11/2018 10:15:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon.......Timelines change. Aug 16)
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To: rktman

GMO Roundup-Ready corn doesn’t belong in anyone’s cereal bowl. (Or gas tank, for that matter).

The entire industry is a syphilytic whore who infects everyone she touches. Big Ag loves to portray themselves as little farmers, but they are among the worst crony-capitalists sucking at the engorged leviathan’s teats.


9 posted on 09/11/2018 10:18:18 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: rktman

The problem is a greater volume of ethanol is required to be added to gasoline each year. The standard does not use a percentage of ethanol/gasoline blend but a volume of ethanol to be used each year. As we try to use less gasoline (more efficient cars) we are using more ethanol. Higher percentages of ethanol can cause issues for many cars. Also higher levels ethanol in fuel causes mileage to drop.


10 posted on 09/11/2018 10:20:07 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Red Badger

Ooooo....that looks so tasty....


11 posted on 09/11/2018 10:21:25 AM PDT by thescourged1
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To: antidisestablishment

GMOs are keeping me standing. Perservatives getting in early.


12 posted on 09/11/2018 10:22:49 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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ok, lets get back to the start of this thing. It was enacted for energy independence, surplus of corn at the time and environmental reasons, trade of balance , and even saving the small farmer. And mostly because the taxpayer was tired of paying subsidies to farmers. Especially storage payments for a 3 year reserve of grain.

all good reasons and part of the reason we are here today with energy surplus. Yes, the situation has changed, yes, there is wrong info. yes, it is not perfect.

But the one thing I want everyone to think about is that reserve. If we don’t use the last bushel of old crop the day before the new crop came in, we screwed up.

Folks, there is no margin of error anymore. But at least with all the ethanol production we can convert it for human consumptions and forget our problems like they did in the old USSR>


13 posted on 09/11/2018 10:35:15 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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I’ve just read some interesting things about gasoline vs alcohol for fuel. I don’t know if they are true or not.

It seems John D. Rockefeller supported prohibition so alcohol could not be used as a fuel in autos.

Anyone got info on it?


14 posted on 09/11/2018 10:50:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Buckeye McFrog
#2: "I am tired of having my engine destroyed because somebody needs to win the Hawkeye Cauci every four years."

When you drive around the heartland (Kansas, Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, etc.) there is an ubiquitous convenience store/gas station/pit stop called Casey's General Store. These are everywhere and are sort of a Raceway/Sheetz/7-11/Wawa place for fuel and food. In some small towns it is the only store at all.

And Casey's offer a choice of real, honest, ethanol-free gasoline. It seems those living in the heart of the corn belt aren't so keen on the ethanol blend that is foisted on the rest of America.


15 posted on 09/11/2018 11:03:46 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: rktman
Less than 1 percent of the U.S. corn crop is sweet corn for human consumption. Sweet corn is harvested when the kernels are soft and sweet, making it an incredibly tasty treat for people. Field corn is used to feed livestock, make ethanol fuel for your vehicle and go into more than 4,000 consumer products.

LaCrosse Tribune

16 posted on 09/11/2018 11:05:42 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

bttt


17 posted on 09/11/2018 11:06:47 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: antidisestablishment

Yeah, I’m guessing that you really don’t know all that much about farming.


18 posted on 09/11/2018 11:06:52 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: rktman

Corn in to your car’s fuel tank destroys the fuel system over time.

You want to get the corn content in your gas tank below 15% and hopefully below 10% toward 5%.


19 posted on 09/11/2018 11:08:40 AM PDT by TheNext (Anonymous Source)
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Wish I could find the excessive paper I did in college, nearly 40 years ago. It was about gasohol— the myriad problems it had and caused, it’s positive potentials and the tax breaks it was getting to try to make it a viable commodity. Imagine my surprise and disgust when the gov made it mandatory even tho those problems had not been overcome.


20 posted on 09/11/2018 11:10:55 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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