Posted on 08/27/2018 8:06:12 AM PDT by dangus
See my comments below
...Cardinal Cupich released a statement on Sunday calling the letter “astonishing” and correcting what he said are factual errors. He points to Archbishop Viganò’s claim that he was appointed to the Vatican body that chooses bishops “right after he was made a cardinal,” but notes he was appointed to the Congregation for Bishops in July 2016 and that he was not named a cardinal until October. He called for a “thorough vetting” of the claims made in the letter....
... Others say that one of the central claims of the letter, that Pope Benedict placed sanctions on Cardinal McCarrick, which were kept secret, that were later lifted by Pope Francis, does not hold up. According to Vigano, who says he learned about them from Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, the sanctions were placed in 2009 or 2010. Initial reporting by the National Catholic Register said that the retired pope remembers ordering the sanctions but not their exact nature. But Cardinal McCarrick continued to keep a public profile during Benedict’s pontificate....
These Jesuits seem to picking at fly specks in the pepper, while refusing to recognize “the caca” as the Pope so eloquently phrased it this weekend.
“The Pope Emeritua remembers...” Does the NCR claim that it interviewed Pope Benedict?
Shooting the messenger/whistleblower is why more people don’t come forward.
“Did you interpret it differently?”
Yes.
Usually, a black mass would be labeled as a blasphemy, although it is also sacrilegious.
If a priest sins with a penitent and then absolves the penitent of the sin in which the priest participated, that is a sacrilege. In fact, it’s a very serious delict.
Celebrating Mass or receiving Communion in the aftermath of that event is sacrilegious. Thus, a “sacrilegious Eucharist.” No refernce is made to black masses.
The late bernardin was actually accused specifically of incorporating black masses into his ritual sexual abuse of young people. There are similar charges in the Pennsylvania grand jury report.
But, so far, I haven’t heard any allegations of this against mccarrick, and Archbishop Vigano makes no such assertions.
Won’t work this time.
The damage is so deep and so profoundly evil that nothing will do other than a wholesale cleaning of the stables.
That includes a very close inspection by the laity of the Jesuit order throughout the world.
Perhaps inspection isn’t the right word. Colonoscopy with resection might be better.
--------------------------------
President Thomas Jefferson:
I do not like the reappearance of the Jesuits...Shall we not have regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king of the gypsies can assume, dressed as printers, publishers, writers and schoolmasters? If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of Loyola's. Nevertheless, we are compelled by our system of religious toleration to offer them an asylum....
-----------------
"My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities,[and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order's] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII]is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death; I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola."
John Adams
--------------------------
"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country the United States of America are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe."
Marquis de Lafayette
-----------------------------------
"Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [Thomas J. Campbell]. Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection." (1987)-
J.E.C . Shepherd (Canadian historian)
-------------------------
In Roman Catholic circles it is well known that the Black Pope is the term used for the [Superior] General of the Jesuits. As the Pope is always robed in white, and the [Jesuit Superior] General in black, the contrast is obvious. But those Romanists who do not greatly love the Jesuits, and their number is not limited, use the term as indicating that the Black Pope rules the White Popeeven while the former [i.e., the Black Pope] is obligated to make, at least, a show of submission to the latter.(1896)-
M.F.Cusack (Ex-nun of Kenmore; author of the book The Black Pope)
---------------------
Wherever a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi, a Jesuit can be found in the role of advisor; or leader; in [Communist] Cuba Fr. Armando Llorente and in Argentina the neo-Nazis are led by Fr. Menvieille.
Emanuel M. Josephson (1968)
----------------------
There was no disguise they (the Jesuits) could not assume, and therefore, there was no place into which they could not penetrate. They could enter unheard the closet of the Monarch, or the Cabinet of the Statesman. They could sit unseen in convocation or General Assembly, and mingle unsuspected in the deliberations and debates. There was no tongue they could not speak, and no creed they could not profess, and thus there was no people among whom they might not sojourn, and no church whose membership they might not enter and whose functions they might not discharge. The could execrate [i.e., sharply denounce] the Pope with the Lutheran, and swear the Solemn League with the Covenanter.
J.A. Wylie (Rev.; Author of the book The History of Protestantism)
Why won’t it work?
Let’s say:
- bergoglio ignores it all;
- wuerl ignores it all;
- other perps ignore it all;
- Mass attendance takes a modest hit;
- contributions decline modestly;
- the homoclerical demonocracy closes a few parishes and other money-losing ventures.
End result:
- the perps get to continue to live as millionaires and, in some cases, billionaires.
Lots of lay folks are smearing Archbishop Vigano already, and don’t believe him.
Lots of lay folks are saying bergoglio, wuerl, etc. are terrible and must go, but these same folks say that their priest, their parish is good, and to stop contributing to their parish would punish good people. So they continue to give. And the bishops continue their skim operation. And wuerl gets to continue to live in his $43 million 12,000 sq ft penthouse apartment.
I see no evidence that the greatest part of the laity will withhold ALL contributions to ANY Catholic entity, and thus put a real crimp in the income stream of the bishops.
So, why won’t it work?
OK. THAT makes sense, then. I had googled the 6th Commandment, and it said it was the one against murder.
Don’t they still call the head of the Jesuits “the Black Pope”?
NO, the charges are NOT horrible enough.
Example: Let's say Home Depot hired a store manager who discovers a group of employees that rape young children who get lost from their parents in the store... NOW what do YOU expect him to do?
1. Cover up the rapes and allow the men to continue finding victims.
2. Move the rapists to different stores so it's someone else's responsibility to 'discover them'..
3. Tell the rapists they're forbidden to work in 'Home and Garden' (as if that made any difference...) or...
4. Tell the police the truth about who's raping the children...(rendering onto Caesar...)
Do we really expect more from our Home Depot Managers than from Catholic Priests - - expect them to be MORE ethical, more concerned about children, more concerned about God's messages to the world? That the shepherd protects the sheep NOT the wolves...
(As far as 'forgiveness goes - it's just as easy to forgive a criminal/priest sitting in a prison cell as it is to forgive a criminal/priest sitting in a church rectory 40 feet from a children's playground.)
According to a drop out Priest friend of mine, Sacrilegious Eucharist - consecrating the Host while you are under Mortal Sin. These guys could have said 100 Acts of Contrition, but because of their intent and lack of true repentance, they remained under the cloud of Mortal Sin. To Celebrate the Holy Mass while you are under Mortal Sin is a one way ticket to Hell.
God sees the larger picture - past technicalities placed on earth to make it easier for sinners to see the path to avoid - past the pride and vanity... sees the larger picture where these priest/child rapists are truly condemned. "Mortal Sin" isn't as complicated or esoteric as they wish it was...
Read tge catechism. Ignorance kills....you and those that overhear. Priests can’t always be without mortal sin while the congregation needs them. What he dies in persona christi is one thing, holy and licit, despite his being a sinner....Jesus wont abandon you just because the priest failed him and you. Jesus wont abandon you before judgement day just because you fail Him...thanks be to God.
These guys have knowingly committed Mortal Sin. Until they confess and repent they remain in a state of Mortal Sin. They cannot celebrate the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass no matter how much their Parishioners need them. They need to withdraw from their roles as Priest or Pastor until they reconcile with their confessor.
It looks like you would confess to one of these men, and accept the Eucharist from him too.
The job of a priest is to protect the flock NOT to protect the wolves. Almost all “rules” fall from that simple concept...
You have made some good points but you neglected the biggest nexus point of all.
PRAYER.
Pray, pray, pray.
There is a novena for the nation taking place now. There is a rosary event in Washington on October 7. https://www.novenaforournation.com/
Too many laity have forgotten that God is all powerful; that this is a spiritual war. I fear there are more materialists in the church than believers.
Actually, I said when all the mccarrick junk broke that we would only be delivered from this calamity by the supernatural intervention of God.
In fact, I have maintained that God has visited this hierarchy of demons and false shepherds upon the Church because of the sins of the laity. We deserve the hirelings and wolves that God has permitted. And I suspect that until we allow ourselves to be led and renewed by the Holy Spirit, nothing we do will have any real effect.
We are called to repentance. But we are incapable of even that. We must pray first for our own repentance.
>>The Jesuits haven’t been Catholic for decades. Now our heretic pope is a Jesuit.<<
“Fruits” of the Second Vatican Council that achieved its objective which was to destroy the Tridentine Church and erect in its place the disgraceful institution that since then has been a refuge for homosexuals masquerading as shepherds of faithful Catholics everywhere.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.