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California's Jerry Brown considers easing logging rules to help fight fires
The Hill ^ | 08/24/18 | Miranda Green

Posted on 08/24/2018 8:48:12 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) is proposing sweeping new legislation that would make it easier for private landowners to cut down trees on their land as the state deals with one of its worst wildfire seasons in years.

Brown's plan, which first was reported by the Mercury News Thursday, would allow landowners living on property of 300 acres or less to cut down trees with up to a 36-inch diameter without a permit. The current regulation ends at 26 inches in diameter.

Additionally, owners would be able to build private roads up to 600 feet long without getting a permit first as long as they are maintained.

The idea is to let landowners help thin forests to decrease the spread of fires. Brown's proposal follows Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue's visit to the state last week, where both Cabinet members pushed increased forest management as a way to hinder future fires.

President Trump also preached the need for logging and forest management in a tweet, saying, "Must also tree clear to stop fire from spreading!"

A number of California politicians at the time of the secretaries' visit pushed back on the insinuation that fires could be thwarted through increased thinning, arguing that it was meant to benefit the logging industry and overlooked climate change's impact on the fires.

Brown's office at the time would not comment on the tweet.

Brown's new proposal has the support of the timber industry by not a bunch of environmentalist groups, some of who argue that logging will aid fires to spread because it will cut down the mature trees that burn longer.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; jerrybrown; wildfires
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It's called Forest Management.
1 posted on 08/24/2018 8:48:12 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Why? Are there trees in the way of his toy train?


2 posted on 08/24/2018 8:50:35 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: yesthatjallen

There is just too much campaign money for the RATS at stake from the enviro-nutcases. Don’t expect much.


3 posted on 08/24/2018 8:50:54 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: yesthatjallen

Don’t do it, Jerry!

I want all liberals’ homes to burn down—just like you do! Additionally, we both want to keep the “Global Warming” ruse going, so to counter the the declining temperatures, we must get more tree smoke into the atmosphere.

Jerry, don’t go weak on me, now.


4 posted on 08/24/2018 8:51:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: rktman

Someone else has to clean up his mess.


5 posted on 08/24/2018 8:51:22 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: yesthatjallen

After this SOB burned half of California down this ars thinks this will save him? Screw this communists liberal. Go for Cox for Governor.


6 posted on 08/24/2018 8:53:11 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: yesthatjallen

Jerry has always wanted to be...

A lumberjack.


7 posted on 08/24/2018 8:54:02 AM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Brilliant !


8 posted on 08/24/2018 8:54:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: yesthatjallen

That’ll help Kroger get away from plastic bags. It’s for the environment, don’cha know... oh, wait...


9 posted on 08/24/2018 8:54:47 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Too busy tooting rails off of Linda Rondstadt’s ample posterior to have come up with that revolutionary idea sooner I guess.


10 posted on 08/24/2018 8:55:33 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: yesthatjallen

The Left can be trained but not with reason and special pleading but BLAME THEM.


11 posted on 08/24/2018 8:55:47 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: yesthatjallen

The President is going to crow on Twitter about this.
Mr. Trump has been telling Jerry what the problems were, and the Gov. has been rejecting that non-PC remedy for weeks.
Many others have been warning about this for years.
Extreme fires happen when landowners are not allowed to clear the brush or conduct small Controlled Burnings. This is what happens. It’s like a Jiffy Popper out of control, with unlimited fuel sources.


12 posted on 08/24/2018 9:02:23 AM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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To: yesthatjallen

While he’s screwing off “considering”, more places burn.

They should make this a$$hole run nude thru the fires. Maybe his mere magical essence will just make the fires go away.


13 posted on 08/24/2018 9:03:22 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: RinaseaofDs
Linda Ronstadt was quite the hot babe back in day.

In early 70's, I lived in Hollywood and visited the Troubadour a few times to catch and her back-up band (future Eagles) and Jackson Browne among others incl JD Souther. Helluva time!


14 posted on 08/24/2018 9:03:35 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: yesthatjallen

Sorry Moonbeam you are ‘too little and too late”.

Californians are constantly whining about the high cost of housing in their state.

Just maybe if these same Californians had not elected State and Federal politicians who created stupid policy to hinder tree harvesting, those millions of trees that have been toasted by wildfires over the past decades could have been used to build houses instead.

Stupid actions have bad consequences.


15 posted on 08/24/2018 9:05:27 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: yesthatjallen

Jerry Brown is the worst governor in California’s history.
He started the downward slide in the 1970’s.
Never ever elect anyone who is drug addled like he is.
Known as Gov Moonbeam.


16 posted on 08/24/2018 9:06:54 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: yesthatjallen

These are stupid humans in California.

There are two ways to manage a forest.

1) Don’t Manage it. Let Mother Nature do the work. This means letting wild fires burn themselves out. This will reduce the frequency of large fires and increase the frequency of small fires after about a decade.

2) Do Manage it. This means logging dead and old growth out of the forest and having access and fire roads through the forest. It also means clear cutting fire stops in certain populated areas. Yes, this also helps the logging industry (who also pays taxes). It could create jobs in California too. AND, the animals do not mind or care what the configuration of the forest is. They adapt well.

What California has been reduced to doing is NOT managing it until there is a fire and then they try frantically and at great cost of life and treasure to stop it. When the forest accumulates 3’ or 4’ of dead timber and kindling on the forest floor, then gets no rain and dries out, it burns easily and it burns hot. It turns to coals and embers very quickly. When the forest floor is green and lush with fresh vegetation that doesn’t burn well, fire burns through a forest a much slower rate and can be easily controlled. Living trees do not burn well unless it gets REALLY hot and sucks all moisture out of them.

Try this experiment in your back yard. Cut a fresh limb of a healthy tree. Find some old wood or lumber that has been dead and dry for a long time. throw them moth in a fire. Observe which one burns the fastest.


17 posted on 08/24/2018 9:06:55 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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... legislation that would make it easier for private landowners to cut down trees on their land...

Sure is nice of the government to allow people to cut down trees on their own land.

And America is called a free country?

18 posted on 08/24/2018 9:08:12 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: newfreep

My brother had a similar poster. She was definitely smoking back in the day. Word around the campfire was that Jerry Brown was doing rails in Sacto with Linda at the mansion.

There were a LOT of smoking babes through the 90s.

My son and I were watching Terminator, the original - he’d never seen it.

He actually commented on it - “Man, girls were way hotter in the 80s. Must have been a good time to be a teenager.”

Yes it was my boy, yes it was.

Hottest thing I can think of right now is getting caught between Dagen McDowell and Maria Bartaromo in a mattress avalanche.

“We’re good here. Rescue someone else.”


19 posted on 08/24/2018 9:10:44 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: ConservativeMind

You are a mindless jerk!


20 posted on 08/24/2018 9:28:19 AM PDT by vette6387
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