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Alienated and Intimacy-Starved
The American Conservative ^ | Paul Brian

Posted on 08/13/2018 3:43:48 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy

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To: pke

**The real cause of sexual angst is that our culture is over-sexed and this over-sexualization creates an extreme sexual frustration. **
Too much movie watching and thinking hollywood is real..
The lack of perspective due to the wide availibility of both porn and ease of just, moving on when things get rough Leads to most folks never making a real commitment. they never learn or practice real unconditional love. Most wedding vows should be changed from “ til death do us part” to, for a few years and if Im not happy anymore Im taking the house and kids, and I get to scream at you when life isnt treating me right, you are now my garbage can for stuff in my life i dont want to carry. ...Best advice for incels... Either you make God the center of your life or you dont . Your misery is a choice.


41 posted on 08/13/2018 5:28:40 AM PDT by Ikeon (maddy murry o'hare is not smiling, she's burning in hell.)
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To: pke
Sex that lacks a loving relationship does not fulfill the human person. People who have sex but no love experience the same hopeless frustration as those who don’t.

You are exactly right.

I think this is all instinct. Freud got a lot of stuff right and we do have 2 minds that think separately from each other. It can't be logical because you could then decide not to have children and then none of us would be here today. Until quite recently, sex automatically resulted in pregnancy. Relationships have to be for the long term because human babies take forever to develop and need far, far more care than other animals. This takes 2 parents to accomplish.

In my youth, I was very angry at myself for not seizing the opportunity when it presented itself. I couldn't understand why I was afraid to take what was obviously available. It was only after dumping a young woman and having her hate me forever that I realized the truth. I was not afraid of women, rather I was afraid of getting involved with a woman when I knew it couldn't last.

42 posted on 08/13/2018 5:31:12 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: onona

Allowing women to vote was a mistake.

There, I said it.


43 posted on 08/13/2018 5:31:14 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (I posit that there IS something left worth fighting for.)
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To: nothingnew

A loving relationship that lacks sex does not fulfill the human person.
Might as well just have a roommate.


44 posted on 08/13/2018 5:35:25 AM PDT by EURASLEEP (The EU is Crashing and They're Asleep at the Wheel)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Allowing women to vote was a mistake.

There, I seconded it.


45 posted on 08/13/2018 5:36:21 AM PDT by EURASLEEP (The EU is Crashing and They're Asleep at the Wheel)
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To: ronniesgal

It permits them freedom to act that takes them away from home and the formation of nurtuting families.

In some measure, women are liberated


46 posted on 08/13/2018 5:38:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12) Sanctuary is Sedition)
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To: Chickensoup

You’ve said that at least 3 times. I know Marty gets the girl. My point is not Marty - who in dramatic parlance - changes. His friends do not. They are incels (or whatever you’d like to call them; I prefer losers) as was Marty during most of the film.


47 posted on 08/13/2018 5:45:32 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ronniesgal

Oh, yeah, I’ve been told that, too.


48 posted on 08/13/2018 5:46:11 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: bert

women could, and should, by the way, use sanitary pads or tampons during their menstrual periods.
how do tampons “permit them freedom to act that takes them away from home and the formation of nurtuting families” ? what the hell does this even mean?


49 posted on 08/13/2018 5:47:38 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: ronniesgal

I caught that too! Some of the guys here are truly bizarre. Meanwhile, if their wives don’t work and bring home some bacon (like my obnoxious brother-in-law) they’re ready to call Raoul Felder!


50 posted on 08/13/2018 5:53:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: IronJack

“......….and killed himself.”...……..

A positive solution and happy ending to the story.


51 posted on 08/13/2018 5:56:02 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: miss marmelstein

seriously...it’s like being in another universe.
women should not use tampons. and I thought i’d heard it all here. I’m waiting for the explanation.


52 posted on 08/13/2018 6:02:44 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: Vermont Lt
But to think the world avoided sex until marriage is a pretty small world view.

I never said that. But in any case, historically (especially in the West) sex before marriage was generally frowned upon by many cultures.

53 posted on 08/13/2018 6:12:38 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

Meant to say “especially in the West until the 1960s or so”


54 posted on 08/13/2018 6:14:46 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Chickensoup

I don’t think the movie actually bored me so much as it was a little too lifelike for my taste. It was painful to watch. Although I did enjoy Sgt Carter’s performance as the womanizing cad.


55 posted on 08/13/2018 6:14:52 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: bert

still waiting for that response. “I don’t know what i am talking about” works.


56 posted on 08/13/2018 6:18:14 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: EURASLEEP

no one should be able to vote without passing a same day test.


57 posted on 08/13/2018 6:19:10 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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To: ronniesgal

I prefer not to engage in the argument about how women have bee liberated to enter the work force in masse


58 posted on 08/13/2018 6:23:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12) Sanctuary is Sedition)
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To: miss marmelstein

OK, here’s the one thing I don’t like about that movie: I don’t care how ugly Marty was. Every woman in the neighborhood passed through that butcher shop. Every one of those women has a daughter, sister, cousin, etc. who needs a decent man. Marty shows up for work every day, isn’t a drunk, doesn’t blow his money on gambling, and is generally a nice guy. There is no way Marty could avoid being fixed up with every unpopular young woman in that neighborhood.


59 posted on 08/13/2018 6:25:37 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: bert

that is not what you said. you said using tampons were bad for women, for society, and thats just ignorant and old fashioned.
You are ridiculous and a chicken, not to engage after making a stupid, provocative statement.
Done.


60 posted on 08/13/2018 6:30:50 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I wonder what his FR handle is??)
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