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Californians could vote to end daylight saving time under bill sent to governor
L A Times ^ | Patrick McGreevy

Posted on 06/22/2018 8:33:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Californians would be asked in a November ballot measure whether to end the biannual practice of moving their clocks ahead and back to comply with the Daylight Saving Time Act, under a bill the Assembly approved Thursday and sent to Gov. Jerry Brown for consideration.

“This bill creates a pathway for California to stay on daylight saving time year-round,” Assemblyman Kansen Chu (D-San Jose) told his colleagues before they voted 63-4 to approve his bill.

"AB 807 is aimed to dramatically improve public health,” Chu said. “Studies have shown that when we switch our clocks, that action alone increases the chances for heart attacks, workplace injuries, crime and traffic accidents.”

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To: IYAS9YAS

Also odd is that Arizona is on Mountain time. It borders a coastal state, it’s only about 300 miles from the coast, yet it’s on Mountain time zone.


41 posted on 06/22/2018 10:11:08 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Also odd is that Arizona is on Mountain time. It borders a coastal state, it’s only about 300 miles from the coast, yet it’s on Mountain time zone.

Well, looking at the map of the United States, AZ is pretty much in-line south of ID, MT, WY, and UT, which are all on Mountain time (except the ID panhandle, which is on Pacific time to be more in sync with Spokane, WA), so it makes more sense based on sun location, rather than physical distance from the coast.

Hell, Reno, NV (also on Pacific time) is farther west than Los Angeles, CA. Use that as a bar bet...

42 posted on 06/22/2018 10:25:57 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

And here I thought they defined Mountain time zone on the Rocky Mountains, that run up through >>Colorado.


43 posted on 06/22/2018 10:29:11 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It’s not like the Central time zone is actually in the middle. They’re just names.


44 posted on 06/22/2018 10:36:08 AM PDT by discostu (Does this kind of life look interesting to you?!)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Also, you’ll note parts of Arizona extends about 150 of miles west of Nevada’s eastern boundary which puts Arizona closer to the Pacific coast than all the states you mentioned.


45 posted on 06/22/2018 10:36:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

Because...Trump!!!


46 posted on 06/22/2018 10:41:54 AM PDT by gogeo (No justice, no peace.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

In fact, straight line, the Arizona border is only about 155 miles from it’s border to the water on the Pacific Ocean...Mountain time zone? I don’t see it.


47 posted on 06/22/2018 10:42:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: discostu

Well names should at least mean something. The Rocky Mountains which extend from New Mexico to Canadian border, never touches Arizona.

In fact, from my perspective, the time zones seemed like they just pulled them out of a hat.


48 posted on 06/22/2018 10:57:23 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

They think it’ll give them more daylight hours to traffic in more illegals.


49 posted on 06/22/2018 11:09:11 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: dragnet2

But the Rockies are entirely contained within the Mountain time zone. So it does have meaning. Sort of.


50 posted on 06/22/2018 12:04:11 PM PDT by discostu (Does this kind of life look interesting to you?!)
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To: dragnet2
Also, you’ll note parts of Arizona extends about 150 of miles west of Nevada’s eastern boundary which puts Arizona closer to the Pacific coast than all the states you mentioned.

Not that far. 50 miles, max. Not 150. Longitudinally, AZ lines up directly under UT, and most of eastern Idaho and Western MT. For solar noon, it makes more sense for it to be Mountain time, not Pacific. Distance from the ocean shouldn't be the determining factor, solar noon should be.

51 posted on 06/22/2018 12:07:46 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: BenLurkin

Aren’t they worried that having an extra hour of daylight during the 4 months or so that will be affected will increase global warming?


52 posted on 06/22/2018 12:13:27 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: IYAS9YAS

Which mountains are you talking about? Is not mountain time zone based on the Rocky Mountains which extends to Canada from New Mexico, which never touches Arizona?

If I am not mistaken Mountain Time refers to how the Rocky Mountains.

Same with Central time zone. It’s not central at all. I find the names of these zones to be misleading at best.


53 posted on 06/22/2018 12:36:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Regarding your point about solar noon. If that’s the case, why is Mountain time zone not a direct or straight line from north to south? How does that work?


54 posted on 06/22/2018 12:44:08 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If that’s the case, why is Mountain time zone not a direct or straight line from north to south? How does that work?

Politics, mostly. Some for state boundaries, some for economic reasons (look how wide the Eastern Time Zone is).

55 posted on 06/22/2018 1:14:45 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“Not so. Arizona has been this way for a long time”

Not true, Arizona stays on standard time year round. California is proposing staying on DST


56 posted on 06/22/2018 1:22:33 PM PDT by Figment
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To: BenLurkin

A better solution might be to narrow the time zones a bit and everyone stay on the same one all year. The difference in sunrise and sunset from the eastern to western end of a zone can be quite dramatic


57 posted on 06/22/2018 1:27:06 PM PDT by Figment
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To: IYAS9YAS
That's what I said early on, they pulled these time zones out of a hat.☺ They make little sense from my perspective.
58 posted on 06/22/2018 1:27:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Regarding your point about solar noon. If that’s the case, why is Mountain time zone not a direct or straight line from north to south? How does that work?

Prior to 1883, there were no time zones in the United States or Canada (or the rest of the world for that matter). Times were set locally, usually based on solar noon in that particular area, and the time was kept by a village clock or the like.

In 1883, standard time zones were created by railroad companies to better schedule trains in the U.S. and Canada. This was not law, and not readily adopted in many places (except by railroad stations/terminals).

We didn't actually get official time zones in the United States until 1918, and these were established (along with the much-hated-and-debated daylight savings time) with the Standard Time Act of 1918. Time zones have been in flux since, as politics or borders change, or for economic reasons, but they have shifted over the last 100 years.

59 posted on 06/22/2018 1:30:23 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Ya, I know the basic history...But the fact remains, they make little sense, as I alluded to earlier.


60 posted on 06/22/2018 1:32:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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