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The Deep State is an Organism, not a Conspiracy
PJ Media ^ | 16 June 2018 | Charlie Martin

Posted on 06/16/2018 3:31:56 PM PDT by Rummyfan

Every month on the 13th -- and on special occasions, like November 7th, June 14th, January 30th, and May 1st -- they meet in a secret chamber under the Kalorama mansion of the Chairman. They don their white robes, with pride rainbow inclusive accents. Precisely at 7 PM -- it used to be midnight, but they can't depend on Hillary being functionally sober after 8 PM -- they sing the Internationale before sitting at the long zebra wood table. The Chairman stands, his hood thrown back, posing neatly framed, haloed, by the All-Seeing Eye and the golden nimbus around it, and calls the meeting of the Deep State to order.

Or at least that's the way some on the far-Right seem to imagine the Deep State.

Of course, this notion of a single grand conspiracy is overblown, but it leads to counter-arguments, like Erick Erickson's recent tweet about the FBI Inspector General report:

There is no coup. There is no sinister deep state. There is no dark conspiratorial force. It’s incompetence, idiocy, bureaucratic self-aggrandizement, and partisan hackery all the way down.

Since there are no risible meetings of a Secret Cabal, it follows (for people like Erickson) that there's no Deep State at all. This is a fallacy that is so wide-spread it's endemic, part of the popular wisdom: a complicated system has to have a Boss, someone to wave the baton and a bureaucracy to follow the Boss's orders, or it won't work at all.

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To: jjotto
Deep State is inevitable in a technological and legalistic culture. The only way to ensure their strict political neutrality is extreme and immediate punishment for violations.

Or repeal of civil service. A thorough house-cleaning at the start of each new administration would keep the Deep State pruned. I would also limit Senate confirmation to just the top 50 or so positions, and give the cabinet officers hire authority for lower positions.

Make government employment strictly temporary. No pensions, just 401K contributions.

21 posted on 06/16/2018 4:38:47 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Go go Godzilla)
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To: Rummyfan
THE GREAT DRAINING BEGINS: 7th Floor / Deep State Purge 1. State Department tried to bribe FBI to unclassify Clinton emails News that a top State Department official discussed a "quid pro quo" in exchange for the FBI changing the classification of a Hillary Clinton email is shocking enough. But word that the coterie of State officials who controlled the release of the emails CALLED ITSELF "The Shadow Government" is mind-blowing. The latest FBI dump of documents from the investigation into Clinton's email follies includes a summary of one agent's talks with Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy — who, the agent said, "pressured" him to "change the classified email to unclassified." Kennedy "asked his assistance in altering the email's classification in exchange for a 'quid pro quo,'" the summary says. "In exchange for marking the email unclassified, State would reciprocate by allowing the FBI to place more agents in countries where they were presently forbidden." VIDEO That's a promise to help alter US policy in order to make it seem like Clinton hadn't casually endangered national security. That the FBI didn’t take the deal doesn't make the potential trade any less odious. And State is still covering: Its official comments call the allegations "inaccurate" and claim Kennedy was merely trying to "understand" the FBI's decision. Who offers to change federal policy in order to “understand” something? Plus, in a later interview with the FBI, Kennedy was asked if any of certain Clinton emails was classified — and answered, "We'll see" while making eye contact with the agent he'd discussed the deal with. Kennedy is hardly the only State official to try covering for Clinton. The whole department did its best to minimize the scandal — by repeatedly claiming it just couldn't release most of Clinton's emails until after Election Day, until court rulings forced it to cough them up. The FBI also released the summary of an interview that revealed a cabal at State that oversaw the email release — a “powerful group of very high-ranking STATE officials that some referred to as ‘The 7th Floor Group’ or as ‘The Shadow Government.’ This group met every Wednesday afternoon to discuss . . . everything CLINTON-related to FOIA/Congressional inquiries.” Imagine officials high in the George W. Bush administration calling themelves "the Shadow Government" as they oversaw a supposedly nonpartisan release of documents that could sink the White House hopes of its former boss. Heck, State on its own somehow never officially noticed Clinton's missing emails — regularly reporting "no records that comply" to subpoenas and Freedom of Information requests. Only the hacking of Clintonite Sidney Blumenthal's emails, two years after she left office, began to expose the truth. The FBI has flagged the "quid pro quo" exchange for further investigation. Don't expect that probe to go far if the "shadow government" becomes the real thing after Nov. 8. Deep State did everything in their power to shield Hillary Clinton from justice. [VIDEO] https://nypost.com/2016/10/17/the-state-departments-shadow-government/ 2. DHS Insider Warns "It's Spy Versus Spy" Profile picture for user Tyler Durden by Tyler Durden Fri, 02/17/2017 - 18:00 Submitted by VicturusLibertas via The Burning Platform blog, VL has been fortunate enough to work with some awesome people! We have loyal and awakened followers who help bring us information, and we also have trusted insiders, whistleblowers and leakers who trust us enough to give us information, too. Today, we have an exclusive interview with a special DHS insider who has answered some critical questions we have on PizzaGate. Our insider prefers to call it PedoGate and what he told us blew our minds! We are so fortunate that members of the Intel community like our work and feel they can trust us. We have been trying to get to the bottom of PizzaGate for months and the answers we got from our DHS insider stunned and shocked us. Here we go!] VIDEO Q. So, in the Intelligence community, how chaotic is the atmosphere now? A. In my 34 years of Governmental service, I have never seen anything like it. It’s the bifurcation of the entire intelligence apparatus. Q. It seems the intel community has it in for Trump – is this your feeling? A. There are many Trump supporters within the FBI. The CIA, however, is against Trump because Trump threatens to ruin their game in the middle east. Q. Can you elaborate? A. CIA and Mossad work in tandem with British intel. The goal for the CIA was to replace Assad with a puppet and to topple Iran so we could access their oil. Israel works closely with it’s “sister”, Saudi Arabia, to help this dark cause. Q. So it seems like the intel community has it in for Trump. How can he protect himself? A. Trump has a tremendous opportunity here, but needs to circle wagons. The travel ban included 7 countries chosen by both Jared Kushner and Rudy. Why did it not include Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Turkey or other countries that hate us? The seven nations mentioned were chosen by Israel, that’s why. And the unspoken alliance of Israel and Saudi Arabia should be exposed. They are brother and sister. Jared Kushner needs to be careful with what he says and to whom. But, the biggest thing Trump can do is expose PedoGate via Sessions. Big names will go down hard, and it gets the blood suckers drained from the swamp. There are as many pedophiles on the Republican side as there is with democrats, but Trump is in a unique position to truly “clean up Dodge”, so to speak. I can tell you that what is in Anthony Weiner’s hard drive, and what videos exist via Jeffery Epstein, WILL BRING massive arrests – in time. Trump’s legacy could be truly great if he was to purge the CIA, stop the extortion, prosecute the pedophiles and reinstate the death penalty for pedo’s convicted a second time. Pedogate is his path to greatness. Q. How does Russia fit into all this? A. The CIA and Israel are responsible for the creation of Isis. Isis was created specifically to weaken Iran and destabilize Syria. It worked for a while until Putin shored up Assad and bolstered Iranian Qud forces. The real reason you see such anti-Russian fever from both Schumer and McCain, Graham and Feinstein, is because the operation has blown up in our faces. Q. Is Israel behind the anti Russian sentiment? A. Yes. Israeli intelligence is furious with Trump, and will do anything to keep Trump from working with Putin. Understand that if Trump and Putin work together to defeat Isis, they are actually defeating a CIA/Mossad creation, and furthermore, Syria and Iran grow stronger, which the Saudis and the Israeli’s fear. Their goal was to divide Syria and ultimately destroy Iran’s regime. It is not just an oil grab, but a much bigger attempt at moving the chess pieces to allow Israel and Saudi Arabia to dominate the entire Middle East. Q. So they demonize Putin and try to tarnish the Trump administration? A. The Deep State is at war with both Trump and Putin. Understand that when Israeli intelligence hears “America first” from Trump, they go apeshit. Israel has bribed, extorted and intimidated our politicians for decades and suddenly this upstart billionaire threatens to ruin everything. Q. You mention the word extort. Does that relate to Pizzagate? A. PedoGate is only a modern term associated with a long history of Pedo-blackmail connected to both Israel and the Intel community. There is a full court press to stop PedoGate from being looked at because if people knew the true motives behind the pedophilia epidemic, they would do more than march on Washington. They could actually seed a revolution, with the spark coming from decent American parents who want to protect their kids. Our politicians are compromised. The senior analyst nicknamed "FBI Anon" alluded to this in his exchange with folks on 4chan and with you. Q. What do you mean compromised? A. Do you notice 2 central themes running through the MSM lately? Those themes are "Fear the Russians" and "#PizzaGate is fake news." Both tropes come from the same place. Q. Can you explain? A. How do we exert power? Via fear. Do you ever wonder why both Democrats and Republicans fall all over themselves to kiss up to Israel? Odd, since Israel is the size of Rhode Island… The fact is, many of our politicians – on both sides – have been compromised by CIA and Mossad for years. It’s actually not admiration they are expressing for Israel, but fear. Notice Lindsay Graham and Chuck Schumer repeating the same salute when it comes to Israel. How does that even happen? The American people are finally seeing that there is no two-party system, but one big shadow Government pretending we have political dichotomy. Q. So PedoGate is real and “they” have to get Americans to disbelieve it? A. Let me explain how threatening PedoGate is… Who wins? Trump. Putin. Americans. Russians. The world…. Who loses? Israel, since they no longer can blackmail our politicians, the same goes for the CIA. The Shadow Government loses. But, the people win. Q. Can you give me specific instances of politicians being compromised by Israel? A. Sure. Lolita Island. Jeffery Epstein, a billionaire convicted of pedophilia received a soft sentence. His island was rigged with video recorders. Many politicians have been compromised. It was a Mossad/CIA operation. Contact ex-senior CIA CCS, Robert David Steele. Bob knows and has even spoken about this with numerous reporters. Q. So an ex-CIA senior agent named Robert Steele is on record saying Epstein’s island was a honey trap to lure our most powerful politicians into a extortion scheme? A. Yes. There are videos of some of the most powerful players in the most humiliating positions. If this gets out, not only are the politicians ruined, but the extortion game is over and suddenly, the influence CIA and Mossad wield over Washington, is gone. Q. Wow ! Now its all making sense. A. Yes. lets continue this conversation later. * * * The interview resumes Q. So I checked out Robert David Steele, and he mentions Chuck Schumer being on Lolita Island. So does FBI anon. Is that why Schumer is targeting Trump’s cabinet picks? A. Connect the dots. Q. How many other politicians have been secretly extorted? A. One in three, roughly. It’s not just the Island, its all of their activities. The reason #Pedogate terrifies the media, the CIA, the Israel Lobby, is because they are all part of this “shadow swamp” Q. Former CIA agent, Robert Steele, says Mossad operated Lolita Island and CIA worked with them. That’s treason on all levels. A. Yes, and its espionage. Just as these leaks from the intel community regarding Flynn. I expect that at some later moment, Trump will leak some of these videos Q. Wait. Trump has videos of politicians in ‘delicate” situations? A. No, But the Intel community has them, and Trump has strong support among certain players in the community. Trump has said he wants to “throw a spotlight on the cockroaches”. Q. But Trump just met with Netanyahu and pledged the usual unbreakable bond with Israel. A. Theatre. Netanyahu is desperate to both play Trump into attacking Syria,and hate Putin, and to convince him PedoGate is a conspiracy theory. Q. That is what Robert Steele says, as well. So, exposing the Pedophiles diminishes Israel’s influence in American politics and also changes the map in a critical mass way? A. The same media screaming “The Russians are coming” is the same media who says “Pizzagate is fake news” That’s CIA and Mossad talking points. Q. How do social media giants like Facebook and Google fit in? A. Facebook and CIA are literally the same petri-dish. Google became a Deep State organ courtesy of Eric Schmidt. Q. Getting back to the Pedo stuff, FBI anon said in July of last year, that the Clinton Foundation sold secrets to foreign nations. Did they also engage in PizzaGate? A. There are videos of WJC that would destroy him. FBI anon leaked weeks ago, on purpose. There was a reason. Q. Ok, FBI anon gave Schumers initials, and Barnet Frank and others, but so far we have only seen low level arrests. A . FBI anon did a “bank shot”. That’s a pool hall term we use. Ask Bob about it. FBI Anon rattled their cages as other DHS and local authorities rounded up all sorts of street-level human traffickers. The big arrests will come in time, but first the small fish are interrogated, and provide information that leads to larger fish. FBI Anon was firing a shot across the bow, much like you shake a beehive to infuriate the bees. Notice how blatantly hostile McCain, Schumer, Graham, and others are? It was what we call a “targeted trigger“. It worked. By long-kniving Flynn, they exposed their hand. Now, Trump has full executive powers to investigate the CIA and Mossad. Notice how there is sound and fury about “Russian influence” and utter silence on “Mossad” influence in our power structure? When FBI anon leaked in early July, the whole idea was to expose the Clinton Foundation,and to hint at the sale of “people” i.e. Pedogate. Look back at his exchange on 4chan. He is a gifted analyst, and knows just what stone to throw at Goliath’s noggin. By triggering the shadow Government, he helps citizen journalists ask the right questions and follow the right breadcrumbs, not the rabbit holes the Elite scum want you to follow. Now, PEDOGATE victims are speaking out on their experiences! You just had a story on some lady who went through having her family abused by California-Deep-State-sponsored terrorism. If folks knew that CPS in California is tied into a huge racket that kidnaps children from parents, they would realize just how sick this is. Foster homes, CPS, etc… all get paid well to jail parents and then snatch their kids away. These kids suffer abuse, and perpetuate the growing cancer called pedogate. Politicians who have pedophile tendencies are groomed for power, because they can be later extorted and controlled. Meanwhile, victims have no voice- until now. Suddenly, we have citizen journalism, and it will end up saving the people, in the end. I have to go, but please contact Robert David Steele, the former CIA agent we discussed. I am sure he would appear on your channel. You are providing a real service to the people and we hope you will continue to speak up for the regular folks who are concerned, rightfully, as to the state of our nation. Take care https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/dhs-insider-warns-its-spy-versus-spy 3. State Dept. carries out layoffs under Rex Tillerson While Rex Tillerson is on his first overseas trip as Secretary of State, his aides laid off staff at the State Department on Thursday. Much of seventh-floor staff, who work for the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and the Counselor offices, were told today that their services were no longer needed. These staffers in particular are often the conduit between the secretary’s office to the country bureaus, where the regional expertise is centered. Inside the State Department, some officials fear that this is a politically-minded purge that cuts out much-needed expertise from the policy-making, rather than simply reorganizing the bureaucracy. There are clear signals being sent that many key foreign policy portfolios will be controlled directly by the White House, rather than through the professional diplomats. Not a single State Department official was included in the White House meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this week. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner - who has no regional expertise or diplomatic experience - had a greater role in the meeting than the Senate-confirmed secretary of State. VIDEO Rex Tillerson was absent Wednesday but did join Kushner and Netanyahu for dinner the night before. Acting Deputy Secretary of State Tom Shannon was on the official schedule to take his place but was then shut out of the White House meeting. In an emailed statement to CBS News, a State Department official explained that the decision to modify the meeting was made at the White House to “allow for a more personal discussion.” That presumably is a reference to the long-standing friendship between Trump, Kushner, and Netanyahu. That particular incident was disheartening to many State Department officials who hope that Mr. Tillerson - who had a long career as Exxon Mobil’s CEO - will bring his worldly experience and management to a building that has been demoralized by the Trump administration’s antipathy toward multilateralism and cavalier approach to diplomacy. Two sources also told CBS News that Ambassador Kristie Kenney, the Counselor of the State Department and one of the last remaining senior officials, was informed that she will be let go. She is a career foreign service officer who had served as an ambassador under Presidents Obama, Bush and Clinton. Her staff was told that Secretary Tillerson does not intend to fill the counselor’s position anytime soon. While positions are often reshuffled during transitions and those perceived as politically-oriented are moved aside, the departures leave the positions vacant at a time of global instability. In Thursday’s presser, President Trump referred to “mass instability overseas, no matter where you look.” “The middle east is a disaster,” he complained. “North Korea - we’ll take care of it folks; we’re going to take care of it all. I just want to let you know, I inherited a mess.” VIDEO “It is irresponsible to let qualified, nonpartisan, experienced people go before you have any idea of their replacement. You can’t do foreign policy by sitting in the White House, just out of your back pocket,” explains Tom Countryman, Former Assistant Secetary for Non-Proliferation who was let go earlier this month. Countryman worries that the White House is displaying an intent not rely on the State Department for foreign policy in that no one will be in place to challenge the edicts drawn up in the Oval Office. This may be what President Trump was referring to when he repeatedly said that “our people” are not yet in place at U.S. government agencies. He blamed the leaks of embarrassing White House transcripts of his phone calls with foreign leaders - including difficult conversations he had with Mexico and Australia - on officials who had previously worked for the Obama Administration. R.C. Hammond, a State Department spokesman, did not respond to the specific question of what motivated the layoffs but provided the following statement: “As part of the transition from one administration to the next we continue to build out our team. The State Department is supported by a very talented group of individuals, both Republicans and Democrats. We are appreciative to any American who dedicates their talents to public service.‎” Hammond previously worked for Newt Gingrich and is a new hire at the State Department. © 2017 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/state-dept-layoffs-under-rex-tillerson-being-carried-out/ 4. The Great Draining Begins: Trump Purges State Department's 7th Floor 'Shadow Government' Tillerson just fired most of the State Department's 7th floor, which is known in Washington as the "Shadow Government" https://russia-insider.com/en/great-draining-begins-trump-purges-state-departments-7th-floor-shadow-government/ri18969
22 posted on 06/16/2018 4:39:16 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Rummyfan

Conspiracy is, legally speaking, two or more persons entering into a plan to commit a criminal act. The catch 22 appears to be that when deep staters conspire to commit a criminal act, it is not considered criminal by virtue of their deep-statedness, hence, no conspiracy!


23 posted on 06/16/2018 4:39:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Mariner

“The only way to ensure their strict political neutrality is extreme and immediate punishment for violations.”

Correct.

Rule of Law, no exceptions.

And the punishments for government official abuse must be severe. In China it’s death.

Every time.

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Worth repeating... Is Jeff listening? perhaps his superior is...


24 posted on 06/16/2018 4:43:15 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Looks like a conspiracy against paragraphs, too!. haha


25 posted on 06/16/2018 4:46:45 PM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: Rummyfan

Just imagine the % of high functioning sociopaths attracted to Washington DC for their careers—pols, the alphabet law enforcement, the career bureaucrats. All for power over people. All sorts of powerful positions all over the US probably get some of them too, but DC would get the cream of the crap.

Freegards


26 posted on 06/16/2018 4:47:31 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Rummyfan

There are conspiracies within the deep state. Comey, McCabe, Peter Strozk, Brennan, Rosenstein, Mueller is one such conspiracy. They talk and communicate to each other from time to time. Might be via encrypted messaging who knows. No need to talk all the time. They are like birds flying in formation.

For sure Rotten Rosenstein and Mueller coordinate their actions. This can be done by having a Rosenstein gofer meet up with a Mueller gofer. Matter of fact Rosenstein is Mueller’s superior so meet ups are completely legitimate. This is where they plot to take Trump down and make life a living hell for guys like Manafort and Flynn. Trump’s Attorney Michael Cohen too. The idea is make Trump radioactive, so that no one wants to work for Trump.


27 posted on 06/16/2018 4:58:16 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Rummyfan

28 posted on 06/16/2018 4:58:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Ransomed; Mariner; Joe 6-pack; Neidermeyer; dynachrome

Sorry all

I posted multiple sources. I’m NOT teckie enough to know WHY the blurring occurred or HOW to FIX! :(

But you can copy & put on word document. The 4 sourced articles begin with a number. Again, I apologise


29 posted on 06/16/2018 5:01:26 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Copy and paste doesn’t include the formatting, I guess.


30 posted on 06/16/2018 5:08:53 PM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: Rummyfan

It’s both.


31 posted on 06/16/2018 6:58:10 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: dynachrome

Nope. But, I was trying to make it easier for freepers instad of just posting links :(

But, you can make a work document to separate the 4 articles designated by number.


32 posted on 06/16/2018 10:56:04 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Rummyfan

So many “philosophers” getting into the business based on false memes and incomplete grasp.


33 posted on 06/17/2018 4:42:23 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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