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Trump gives Democrats a big health care opening for the midterms
Axios ^ | 6/11/18 | Drew Altman

Posted on 06/11/2018 3:55:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg

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To: ConservativeMind
It is a near moot point.

Not really. I believe the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions covers all healthcare insurance companies, not just those offering policies through the exchanges.

61 posted on 06/11/2018 7:29:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Trump has said he’s coming out with new health plans this month. Be patient. He’s a busy man, winning for us in so many ways.


62 posted on 06/11/2018 7:30:17 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Then let these 0care people buy insurance that has what they want in it.

And if others don’t want that, they shouldn’t have to pay for it.

You keep sounding like someone who is happy transgender reassignment surgery being force-covered. After all, tons of people are very, very happy with it.

You are a liberal.

63 posted on 06/11/2018 7:31:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Rockingham
Moreover, if the courts deliver a dispositive ruling before the election, the spur of immediate political self-interest is one of the surest ways to get Congress or a legislature to act quickly. Individually and collectively, politicians respond to self-interest like even the laziest dogs hasten to the sound of kibble being poured into their dinner bowl

It's not going to be decided before November. And even if it was, and if it did strike down Obamacare completely, there is no way Congress could get a solution through. The Republicans are too divided and the Democrats have no motivation to solve it before the election.

Also, in the event the courts made a decision, Trump, not the Democrats, would have the greatest prominence and capacity for decision. His natural instinct would be to try to seize the initiative and steal the pre-existing condition issue from the Democrats. I would not bet against his being able to pull it off.

Pull it off how?

64 posted on 06/11/2018 7:31:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ConservativeMind
You keep sounding like someone who is happy transgender reassignment surgery being force-covered. After all, tons of people are very, very happy with it.

And you sound like someone who doesn't care if the Democrats take the House and/or the Senate in November.

65 posted on 06/11/2018 7:32:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Moonman62
Trump has said he’s coming out with new health plans this month. Be patient. He’s a busy man, winning for us in so many ways

Yes he did. It was due a week or so ago. We'll see what he comes up with.

66 posted on 06/11/2018 7:34:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I wouldn’t say really popular. It gets 100% biased good press. There are preexisting conditions that cost a million dollars a month. Those need to go into a pool, not paid by my insurance company. Likewise I donate to charity care centers where doctors volunteer for special cases. I don’t need or want to be forced to pay this via premiums. My payments for low overhead and doctor volunteer time is far more cost effective.


67 posted on 06/11/2018 7:43:10 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: DoodleDawg
Yeah explain that to the electorate.

I would explain that if they expect to get everything they vote for, they will end up with shit.

68 posted on 06/11/2018 7:45:22 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: DoodleDawg

Trump could publicly bludgeon Congress to act, blame the Democrats if they fail to do so, and then use his administrative powers to fashion an immediate, stop-gap remedy.


69 posted on 06/11/2018 7:45:51 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: palmer
I wouldn’t say really popular. It gets 100% biased good press.

I think it's far more than "biased good press". It was a truly popular Obamacare clause, one that provided a feeling of security for those getting healthcare coverage. There was nothing manufactured in its popularity.

There are preexisting conditions that cost a million dollars a month. Those need to go into a pool, not paid by my insurance company.

High risk pools, where offered, were an unpopular alternative. They were limited in what they would cover and extremely expensive to buy. Saying that we should go back to that is just another proposal that plays into the Democrats hands.

70 posted on 06/11/2018 7:47:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
And you sound like someone who doesn't care if the Democrats take the House and/or the Senate in November.

Because someone doesn't support transgender surgery means they have principles, not "be a RINO and win" as you suggest.

71 posted on 06/11/2018 7:49:41 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: DoodleDawg
High risk pools, where offered, were an unpopular alternative. They were limited in what they would cover and extremely expensive to buy. Saying that we should go back to that is just another proposal that plays into the Democrats hands.

Although it is probably pointless to tell you this, I will say it so everyone else understands. Forcing me to pay for someone's million-dollar-a-month treatment means I am a slave to them. I already voluntarily pay for charity care, but I do it because it is extremely cost effective. In general, abandoning all principles of free choice and free markets means we end up losing what makes America great.

72 posted on 06/11/2018 7:55:13 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: DoodleDawg
Trump ran for President on things he wanted to accomplish during his Presidency ... Democrats will pretend everything was suppose to be accomplished within the first two years.

As outrageous and stupid as that is, the press will buy into it and DEMAND ANSWERS on why every comment, every nuance, every thought wasn't accomplished within the first two years....

73 posted on 06/11/2018 8:11:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos demand 'respect' for porn stars, hookers & MS13 but NOT Melania or Ivanka..)
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To: GOPJ
Trump ran for President on things he wanted to accomplish during his Presidency ... Democrats will pretend everything was suppose to be accomplished within the first two years.

I believe at one point Trump said he would have Obamacare replaced by February 2017. The GOP Congress agreed with that. They pretty much made their own mess on this one.

74 posted on 06/11/2018 8:16:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Yeah - and the Wall build ... somethings take longer than we think and require assistance from others - others who might not be that easy to work with...

Often in business - and life - we don’t get everything we reach for...


75 posted on 06/11/2018 8:54:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC Bimbos demand 'respect' for porn stars, hookers & MS13 but NOT Melania or Ivanka? It's nuts)
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To: DoodleDawg
Yes, people with pre-conditions should get insurance, but THEY should pay for it!

The Democrats expect us to pay for it!

76 posted on 06/11/2018 9:23:14 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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