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To: Krosan

I have never been to Russia nor do I anticipate ever going. But if you look on Google Maps Street View, the streets of Moscow at least look pretty nice to me. Far more clean and modern than I expected.


19 posted on 05/15/2018 10:44:56 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51

I’ve been following Russia’s development like China’s it’s pretty stunning how modern their cities are ....


21 posted on 05/15/2018 10:47:47 AM PDT by caww
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To: Stingray51
I've been to Moscow (2011) and can vouch the fact that once you leave a very tight circle around the city center, the place is a dump. What struck me the most was all the holes in the roadways where some construction crew started work years ago and then just left the open hole there. They put a barrel in the street and you drive around it.

I stayed in the "best" hotel for tourists in Moscow, and my guide said never to go out alone or go across the street because it was overrun by packs of wild dogs. We stayed almost next door to the 1980 Olympic village, which was a literal pile of rubble from lack of care. Our bus broke down on the highway at one point near a small patch of woods and we were amazed at all the cars stopping nearby and so the drivers could run into the woods to do their business. This happens because they have no friendly businesses or gas stations where you can stop in an use the facilities.

I came away amazed that I'd visited what was once the #2 superpower in the world and it was like going back to the 1970s, at best. This bridge is ok, but there wasn't one thing on my visit which impressed me about Moscow, or Russia, except one World War II museum with tons of tanks. Even there, tourists had to poop in a concrete hole in the ground because that was the best they could do for bathrooms.
24 posted on 05/15/2018 10:56:47 AM PDT by siberianheat
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Moscow is now every bit of a cosmopolitan city as London or Paris, the difference comes when you venture 50 miles outside of the Moscow city limits.


25 posted on 05/15/2018 11:00:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Stingray51

I’ve been to Moscow in ‘88, but it doesn’t matter and Moscow doesn’t matter as it is still a dump outside the parade areas and that dump is the best narrow showcase Russia can manage.

Meanwhile look at the real pictures that the regular people take in their hospitals - http://englishrussia.com/2016/08/03/the-hell-of-russian-hospitals/ - I know they’re not that big on claiming to be communist any more (I think they still are), but these hospital pictures (from major cities!) show quite well what a dump it is.


31 posted on 05/15/2018 11:05:36 AM PDT by Krosan
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I was in Moscow and area back in the late nineties for about a week. My lungs got so congested from the smog filled air that I could barely breathe. Moscow was clean, but not really...


36 posted on 05/15/2018 11:35:34 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Stingray51
the streets of Moscow at least look pretty nice to me. Far more clean and modern than I expected.

I wonder what the streets looked like during Bernie's honeymoon there.

41 posted on 05/15/2018 1:03:15 PM PDT by Does so (Let's make the word Mohammedism--adding it to other ISMs...)
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