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Fitzgerald officer of the deck pleads guilty at court-martial
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 8, 2018 | Dianna Cahn

Posted on 05/08/2018 6:46:25 PM PDT by chajin

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To: Chode

Just think. That slob is an officer.


41 posted on 05/08/2018 7:17:14 PM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Only Naval officer I know of who’s career survived getting a letter of Reprimand from a Court Martial was Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz. He ran the USS Decatur aground in Manila Bay in 1907.


42 posted on 05/08/2018 7:18:40 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Chode

Those butter bars are butter bars across all branches of the military. It’s the rank of an O-1. In the Navy... an Ensign. Hardly an old salt. The fvcking boat captain needs to be standing at the Captain’s mast/court martial, along side the fvcking pip squeek! What a disaster. Pipe the pip squeek aboard- boatswains mate. Aye Aye Captain.


43 posted on 05/08/2018 7:20:01 PM PDT by freepersup (A freeper behind every blade of grass. us.)
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To: Okeydoker; Stingray51
The CO is an O 4 so it isnt very likely that there are any o5s or even any other o4s aboard.

Arleigh Burke-class destroyers like USS Fitzgerald rate a Commander (O-5) as CO and a Lieutenant Commander (O-4) as XO. A DDG's operations officer is usually a senior Lieutenant (O-3) but some might be promoted to O-4 before the ends of their tours. A Surface Warfare Officer (SWO) qualified Lieutanant Junior Grade (O-2) should possess the skills necessary to stand as OOD -- what is unusual is for any qualified OOD to screw up like this one did.

44 posted on 05/08/2018 7:20:04 PM PDT by Always A Marine ("I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation")
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To: chajin

Citing lengthy reports completed since the collisions, Mooney painted a picture of crew that was overtasked and exhausted. The Fitzgerald was one of several ships in the Japan-based 7th Fleet that was undermanned and missing important experienced crewmembers. Critical training and qualifications were pushed off because of operational tasking.

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I’d say Obama left the Navy in terrible condition and with the wrong priorities.


45 posted on 05/08/2018 7:20:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Stingray51
it is Navy procedure to have an O-2 OD. I was never in the Navy (but was in the Army) and although I am all for young officers being given responsibility, this sounds really stupid to me.

Having been an O-2 OOD, and later more senior, I can tell you that there is nothing wrong in general with that practice. That is where the O-5 and O-6 commanding officers and executive officers got most of their watchstanding and shiphandling experience. I was much better as an O-3 than as an O-2, but that was because of practice. I saw very few officers who were O-4 or O-5 and were better than the O-3s who stood that watch every day.

Mistakes? I made a few - some memorable but still comparatively minor - and I learned from them. I called each CO I served under whenever I was uncertain (which quickly became more common and then gradually became rare) or supposed to call based on standing orders (which stayed common), which is why every Captain I ever had trusted me. I made several calls that started with "technically, I don't need to call you yet, but . . ." As for distractions that would affect my performance? Never, not ever, not while I was on watch. This officer is a disgrace, although taking clear responsibility mitigates the damage, just a little.

46 posted on 05/08/2018 7:21:49 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: headstamp 2

Her career is over. She will not be allowed to renew her commission.


47 posted on 05/08/2018 7:22:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: chajin

Being the Officer of the Deck is a tremendous responsibility. I remember my first watch as OOD of a nuclear submarine, I was scared s@#&less.

The Captain’s order to maintain 20 knots seems very careless. I am not familiar with those shipping lanes, but 20 knots seems excessive.


48 posted on 05/08/2018 7:23:06 PM PDT by wfu_deacons
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To: MarvinStinson

And a guarantee that further promotion is out of the question.


49 posted on 05/08/2018 7:23:33 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I didn't get so much of the "it's not my fault" from the article. But it did sound apparent that she just stood around and DID NOTHING on the bridge. The commercial ship was identified on radar at a distance of 12 miles and she couldn't avoid it? I don't know how she managed to hit it.
50 posted on 05/08/2018 7:23:58 PM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: CodeToad

OK! BUT there were basic errors on the deck that surely would have prevent this FU. BASIC errors were the reason.
These BASIC errors must be brought to the attention of all.
The cause of the basic errors must also be addressed as you point out. First things first.


51 posted on 05/08/2018 7:26:42 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2018!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You can’t AFAI remember...but I’m not sure.

The Officer had the right to refuse Article 15 with the CO, and go to CM..which happened here in any case.

The CO of the Fitzgerald was probably a CDR/O-5...Captain’s Mast (or NJP) is a relatively informal and low-level forum for handling minor misconduct...not sure why on a high profile case like this there even was an Article 15.

Weird.


52 posted on 05/08/2018 7:26:49 PM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: freepersup

So she was an LJG. A First Louie. Should - have - known - better. Dereliction of duty. Boom! You’re outta’ here!


53 posted on 05/08/2018 7:27:28 PM PDT by freepersup (A freeper behind every blade of grass. us.)
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To: Moonman62
I'd say Obama left the Navy in terrible condition..

Obama and the jackass Ray Mabus, SECNAV. Mabus was a screwup as governor of Mississippi with a sexual orientation that leaves one guessing.

54 posted on 05/08/2018 7:28:04 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“She will not be allowed to renew her commission.”

Never heard about renewing a commission. What is that?


55 posted on 05/08/2018 7:29:07 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: Equine1952

That was pretty dumb. Heck, you know the Soviet boat knew your location from the near collision, breaking radio silence wouldn’t have told anyone anything they didn’t already know. And feeding the information of the encounter into the system as soon as reasonably possible was expected, I can completely see that.


56 posted on 05/08/2018 7:29:14 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: CodeToad

AA hire.

And a drunk too


57 posted on 05/08/2018 7:29:24 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Chode

A picture is worth a thousand words.


58 posted on 05/08/2018 7:29:39 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: chajin
"...acknowledged her role in the deaths of seven sailors last year. "

Wow! No one saw this kind of diversity consequence coming.../s

59 posted on 05/08/2018 7:30:00 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Pollster1

Agree with your statement. I qualified as an OOD (U/W) one week prior to becoming a LTjg, on a CVN; was one of three to stand the watch for over a year, until a new CO qualified a couple more. Was also the Sea & Anchor Detail OOD for a year as an O2.

Regarding distractions - Recall once while entering port and the bridge was already crowded and getting too noisy, I called for silence and everybody shut up. Then someone requested permission to enter and, without turning around, said ‘permission denied’. The BMOW told me it was CAG - but he just turned around and left, as he should have.

This officer had no business being qualified as an OOD or a SWO.


60 posted on 05/08/2018 7:32:44 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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