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Why we can't comprehend climate change
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 9, 2018 | by Meara Sharma

Posted on 04/10/2018 6:45:05 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

hyperobject. It describes something so “massively distributed in time and space relative to humans” that it eludes our understanding.

hyperobject. It describes something so “massively believed
in” that it precludes liberal understanding.

There fixed it.
Think Lysenkoism controlling the weather by destroying
the world economy.


41 posted on 04/10/2018 8:28:46 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Because its not real.


42 posted on 04/10/2018 8:33:49 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
A decade ago, the environmental philosopher Timothy Morton...

WTF is an "environmental philosopher?"
Psychobabble rules!

I am so looking forward to stumbling upon a "Dog feces on your shoes" philosopher!

Movin' right along...

43 posted on 04/10/2018 8:36:23 AM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If it’s beyond our comprehension, why are we bombarded with alarmist stories about its impacts, written by people whose authority comes from the supposition that they comprehend it?

Or is it just beyond the comprehension of us unwashed peons, but within the grasp of our social and intellectual betters?


44 posted on 04/10/2018 8:39:17 AM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Rising in atmospheric CO2 levels are ALWAYS preceded by rising temperatures. In the fossil record, ice core record, etc., it is warmer temps FOLLOWED by rising CO2, not the other way round.

The idea of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW—means warming is caused by Mankind) is based on man produced CO2 causing rising temperatures has NEVER been proven, except in computer models. NO OTHER EVIDENCE.

No, the proponents of AGW cannot explain why temperatures plummeted 100,000 years ago and we had almost global glacialization?

I always like to ask the AWG proponents WHAT caused the last glaciation 100,00 or so years ago?

What caused the melting of those same massive, continental ice sheets 14,000 years ago? AGW could NOT have been a factor. And moreover, the waxing and waning of these ice sheets has happened REPEATEDLY over the past several million years. We don’t know why, but have theories. Not one theory is based on atmospheric CO2.

Please, AGW’ers, explain why the global temperature was 4 degrees Celsius HIGHER about 7000 years ago during the Holocene Climate Optimum?

Explain why we still have ice sheets on Greenland and Antarctica if we are in a interglacial? Are we only partially in an interglacial, or in a partial glaciation?

You see folks, it seems that the ice sheets that still exist on these land masses means we’re STILL in an ice age.

BEFORE these recent ice ages started several million years ago, there were no ice sheets. Thus having them melt completely some time in the future , whether in 50 years or 5 million, is nothing we can stop.

THEY do not COMPREHEND!

It is THEY that cannot CMPREHEND.


45 posted on 04/10/2018 8:41:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (If white privilege is real, why do we have millions of poor white people?)
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Why would any young person in the US go into a grant-funded science career these days?

I love softballs...

Because, Horatio, it beats understanding science, and getting a real job of some benefit to humanity, however minute and intangible.

46 posted on 04/10/2018 8:44:59 AM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Time is a hyperobject. Anthropogenic global climate change is a hyped object - and a lie.


47 posted on 04/10/2018 8:53:19 AM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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There was a mile of ice over half of North America just 10,000 years ago. I guess man must have melted it away with fire.


48 posted on 04/10/2018 9:10:10 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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As a Geologist who has studied Climate Change for over 40 years, I agree...


49 posted on 04/10/2018 9:22:39 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More intimidating 😀

50 posted on 04/10/2018 10:14:24 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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Morton should take a freshman Geology course if he wants to understand climate change. It would all come into focus then.

Maybe, maybe not.
Geology is also problematic, since so many (known and unknown?) factors affect the results and the available evidence. Most of my knowledge of Geology is owed to working with professional geologists over a few decades.

The role of geology isn't that obvious, but I learned many new things only after I retired from the following book :

Why Geology Matters: Decoding the Past, Anticipating the Future, 2011, by Doug Macdougall

It is not intuitive that having a working knowledge of Geology has a solid link to the modern, chaotic, contentious, often fraudulent "Global warming" foodfight.

But it sure does.

51 posted on 04/10/2018 12:44:31 PM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
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To: publius911
Interesting further comments...

Why Geology Matters

52 posted on 04/10/2018 12:52:58 PM PDT by publius911 (Declaration: MSM, I am so over watching or listening to bald perverts, thugs and sluts)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Rising in atmospheric CO2 levels are ALWAYS preceded by rising temperatures

Not always. There is data indicating the opposite has occurred.

53 posted on 04/10/2018 2:21:27 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Shaming the smart (because they aren’t). They are really ramping up the fake news on the weather lately, aren’t they? I’d love to have a count of how many they put out per day. Weather propaganda, courtesy of people paid a lot of money to do so.


54 posted on 04/10/2018 2:51:59 PM PDT by Trillian
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