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To: gandalftb

Ft. Sumter no longer belonged to the United States when South Carolina left the union. On what basis are you claiming that it did? The South laid no claims to any northern property that before the split had been owned by both sides. What gives the north a special right to lay claim to anything that was in the South? The north had it’s own shit yet you think they can have whatever the history books, written by the victors, says they can have. Just like any good liberal, the north could not simply leave the South alone to follow IT’s chosen path.


155 posted on 04/02/2018 2:35:46 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham
Ft. Sumter no longer belonged to the United States when South Carolina left the union.

Not true - not in the slightest. The land upon which the fortifications were constructed - using FEDERAL monies BTW - was deeded to the federal government by the State Of South Carolina in perpetuity.

While physical control was in question for a short period, the ownership was never in doubt.

156 posted on 04/02/2018 2:45:56 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Uncle Sham

So in your line of thinking it would be alright for the Cuban’s to fire on the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay.


157 posted on 04/02/2018 2:50:08 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Uncle Sham
Ft. Sumter no longer belonged to the United States when South Carolina left the union. On what basis are you claiming that it did?

On what basis are you claiming it didn't? Sumter was built on land deeded to the federal government free and clear by act of the South Carolina legislature. It was funded through money generated by all the states, not just South Carolina. As federal property, Congress exercised exclusive legislation over Fort Sumter and only Congress could dispose of it.

Just like any good liberal, the north could not simply leave the South alone to follow IT’s chosen path.

And like a good liberal you seem addicted to fake news.

158 posted on 04/02/2018 3:03:11 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Uncle Sham

“Ft. Sumter no longer belonged to the United States when South Carolina left the union.”

It was federal property, built by te Federal Government to protect Charleston from the British in the War of 1812.

Setting aside that SC seceded illegally, did SC offer to buy the property from the Union? Nope, check your facts.

In fact, SC seceded on 12/20/1860.

Then, on 1/9/1861 cadets from the Citadel fired on the fort, preventing the steamer Star of the West from transportiung supplies to Fort Sumter.

Only 3 weeks later, on 1/31/61 did SC Governor Pickens demand the surrender of Fort Sumter because “I regard that possession is not consistent with the dignity or safety of the State of South Carolina.”


203 posted on 04/02/2018 5:30:12 PM PDT by gandalftb
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