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‘No more DACA deal,’ Trump says as he threatens to ‘stop’ NAFTA if Mexico doesn’t better secure bord
washingtonpost.com ^ | 4/1/2018 | Philip Rucker

Posted on 04/01/2018 8:25:28 AM PDT by rktman

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To: SamAdams76

Your lack of an intelligent response or refutation suggests that you too are troubled by Trump’s actions, that the political harm to the country is real and that it is not mitigated by denial or pejoratives. Or it might mean that you really lack the capacity for effective insight and analysis.


101 posted on 04/01/2018 8:52:20 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: morphing libertarian
trump already has a pattern of abdicating to courts

Give me a few examples.

102 posted on 04/01/2018 8:54:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Angels27

“... it is impossible to take Trump seriously ...”
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You are a dumb ass.


103 posted on 04/01/2018 9:01:36 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well, some of those will be gone soon, and hopefully most will come under attack in their primaries when their terms come up.

You should remove Hatch from your list of bad actors, even though he is retiring. But he has seen the light ... recognizes Trump as potentially a very great President.


104 posted on 04/01/2018 9:22:39 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Angels27

>>one term<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is sad to see you and others cannot recognize your own best hope, and cannot seem to comprehend it was ESSENTIAL to fix the military at this time!

From that position we can deal with both the security threats and the coming trade wars.

The President is now in position to get tough on the domestic spending going forward. But the military was CRUCIAL.


105 posted on 04/01/2018 9:26:44 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Hatch earned his spot on the list voting for Rubio’s amnesty.


106 posted on 04/01/2018 9:40:34 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DAC21
a boarder standoff.

You mean, like between landlords and tenants?

107 posted on 04/01/2018 9:50:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: rktman

All Talkie, No Walkie. He will let them in, then deliver a stern ‘This is the last time’. Oh, and start paying for your weekends in Florida, Donald.


108 posted on 04/01/2018 11:06:12 PM PDT by heights
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To: heights

Those two-million dollar weekends are on my dime as a taxpayer.


109 posted on 04/01/2018 11:08:11 PM PDT by heights
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To: rktman

Mexico allows NO intruders into their country from the south or the north... yet letting these go through to America. An “in your face” hit at Trump.

Find out what is near and dear to Mexico and take it from them if we have anything to do with their having it. Play as hard as they do and don’t let those invaders enter our southern borders. Stop them... if he does not, it will send a horrible message to the world... “while Trump is building the wall and trying to get illegals OUT, they come pouring in on purpose and we let them?” Not the message of a strong man... a strong President.

A LONG time ago, i knew if I were President, every act or plan that is not legal and constitutional... I’d go after with all the might and power I had.. i’d bring in the military and stop mueller.. stop the charade.. stop the illegal.. and haul them in for what they have done. Actions such as they are doing, have gone unchallenged... no one has paid the consequences of doing wrong... so MUCH wrong, by so MANY in our government..the only way to do it is to clean house. a strong man can do it because he has the power and the means to do it!!! .. he needs to have the WILL to do it.


110 posted on 04/01/2018 11:48:13 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: allendale
"Sorry but after signing that disastrous omnibus budget bill that encoded most of the Democratic agenda, hard to take those tweets seriously."

I hate to say it...but you have a good point.... It's getting darn tough to separate the wheat from the chaff...

111 posted on 04/02/2018 4:54:32 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Ladysforest
"That is 1500 Honduran FAMILIES."

Families my BUTT..!! It's 80% young men of military age..!

112 posted on 04/02/2018 4:57:28 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: mdmathis6
"Drug abusing Americans have blood of the innocents, on their own hands, that the cartels have slain over the years in getting their “products” to their paying American “customers”."

That, of course, would be the dimocraps..!

"Just like America is responsible for millions of unborn babies being wantonly destroyed, we are indirectly responsible for the mass slaughters of innocent people in Mexico or else where.

What..? You got a mouse in your pocket.??

113 posted on 04/02/2018 5:12:33 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: unread; All

It’s why Trump can’t, with any credibility really tell other countries to police their drug flows into this country. Our American abusers have a demand for the drugs, the cartels supply it and along the way have killed many thousands of people in order to secure their networks or have bribed and threatened others to look the other way. Gangs in our country fight maim and kill to control the drug traffic in their “hoods” or even the interstate routes into other territories(a la the high kill rates in Chicago) as do the individual pushers themselves. The addicted themselves may steal, rob and even kill to support their own habits. If those who abuse illegal drugs were truly responsible for their own calamities, that is one thing but their illegal drug habits have had spill over effects so that almost none of us can say we don’t have innocent blood on our hands. Yet, still the primary responsibility is on the American addicts themselves and their primary pushers....their hands are the hands upon which the blood of innocents is truly the stickiest!

Oh there are those who know the truth and speak out or they work hard to ensure that their own loved ones stay free of addiction. There are those addictions of course that have arisen from the need to control chronic pain for which the small doses of narcotics prescribed legally for such pain have either become ineffective or the source of the pain has healed and the users were left simply addicted and in need of help getting off the drugs.

That is why I have used the word “indirectly” though perhaps it can be argued that the more responsible Americans ought to be “bloody” angry that they have been dragged into the blood guilt that our more darkly addicted have heaped upon themselves.

You might be aware of the book of Judges of the story of the Levite’s concubine. She had been abused and basically had died. The Levite in question, chopped up the body in 12 separate parts and sent the parts to all the tribal lands of Israel, there by laying the blood guilt upon the whole of Israel. The story concludes by the tribes getting together to destroy the ones who had done such a deed in order to rid the land of the blood guilt.

Often drug abusers have tried to argue that “theirs is a victimless crime, harming only themselves”. Yet when I think of that brave woman who became a Mexican Police Chief when no man brave enough(in a machismo driven world no less) would take the job and later hearing that she was murdered by drug traffickers, I knew where the blood guilt lay. First on the murdering thugs who did her in, then on those in the US who snorted the coke, or smoked the weed, or did the pills, or shot the heroin or fentanyl these cartels supplied. Theirs was the blood money paid for the murder of those who actually tried to stem the crime and the drug flows, or the murder of children who were “in the way”, that our politicians hypocritically demand Mexico and Central America to stop!


114 posted on 04/02/2018 6:04:23 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: gibsonguy

It’s not that the judges “upheld DACA”, they are forcing an expired EO to be treated as “settled” law. It begs a show down as I think the Judges themselves, and not the Ag’s that originally lodged the complaints, need to explain to the courts of appeal and the Supreme court why they have the power to create a Law out of an expired EO!!! Trump should simply say...I’m not honoring DACA...it is the responsibility of the Legislature to make such laws. If the lower courts claim other wise, then the lower courts themselves should take the matter up with the Supreme Court! Leverage them into explaining why they have the right to usurp the legislature and the executive branches in creating laws out of their own brazen hubris!


115 posted on 04/02/2018 6:40:11 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: houeto; Angels27

Angels27 postings read like those coming from a deep state disruptor...they have a certain cadence to them. (as in...”your friends on the Endor moon are walking into a trap...it’s all useless give in to the Trump hate and let it flow through you...sort of speech!”)


116 posted on 04/02/2018 6:51:13 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: kabar

Are you that uninformed. Here’s a hint. Immigration and national security. Start last year about February and see the litany of judges making decisions in the presidents authority and him giving legitimacy by participating in the process. Where is Andy Jackson when we need him


117 posted on 04/02/2018 7:00:36 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: mdmathis6; gibsonguy

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Trump should simply say...I’m not honoring DACA...it is the responsibility of the Legislature to make such laws. If the lower courts claim other wise, then the lower courts themselves should take the matter up with the Supreme Court! Leverage them into explaining why they have the right to usurp the legislature and the executive branches in creating laws out of their own brazen hubris!
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What?! And expose and possibly collapse the whole house of cards?

The paperwork on that, by the judges, would be so full of holes...and Fedzilla would continue along as if nothing else had changed; aside from another power-grab by the black-robed oligarchy.


118 posted on 04/02/2018 7:47:53 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: bigbob; rktman

It is still likely he would have canceled it even with the wall. Furthermore, funding generally has to be spent in the year authorized. Would the whole wall have been built in a year even if money was authorized? What I don’t understand is his claim the more illegal crossings means that there will be more DACA claimants. DACA was/is for adult children who were brought here by their parents when they were young. If it does not already say so, then all Congress needs to do is restrict DACA to adult children already here, none arriving here in the future.


119 posted on 04/02/2018 7:49:28 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: i_robot73

They can only power grab if the Executive and Legislative branches let them....the courts have no force structure with which to intimidate the other two branches...they have to rely on the US Marshalls who of course are controlled by the executive branch! Trump though is a negotiator who knows how to walk away from deals he doesn’t like but what he is not is a true autocrat. We have had other presidents who have defied the courts in the past by saying..”they have issued their rulings, now let them enforce them”
Trump isn’t that sort of fellow at heart...he wants to make the parts of government work like they are supposed to.


120 posted on 04/02/2018 8:03:24 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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