[Netz]

If the Saudis lose, we lose because it will be part of the rolling Iranian empire sweeping down from Persia...bad news for ALL of America’s allies and eventually, America itself.

[Cronos]

If the Saudis lose, the USA wins and so does Israel. Why?

Because WHEN (and yes it is when, not if) the Saudi Empire falls then the various tribes will come forth

Remebmer that Saudia is actually an empire formed in the 1920s when the house of Saud defeated other tribes

The tribes are bought off by oil money. Once that ends, their allegiance ends

What happens when the Sauds fall?

1. The various princelings of the house of Saud break away
2. the tribes break away
3. The Hashemites (house of Jordan) goes back to conquer the Hejaz -- remember that they were the traditional rulers of the Hejaz for 1300 years before 1924
4. The Iraqi Arabs united with the Shia Arabs in north-east Saudia
5. The Zaidis take over the land south of the Hejaz
6. Hadhramut and other parts of eastern yemen form their own emirates
7. The Iranians may try to dominate, but they will be kicked out even by the Shia arabs -- don't forget that the Arabs are terribly afraid of the Iranis -- not only Sunni Arabs but even Shia (Saddam convinced these to join him in this 1980-1988 war on Iran)
8. A wider war of Iran versus Arabia will bring down the Ayatollahs as that is NOT what the populace of Iran wants
9. At the most they may occupy Bahrain
10. A resurgent, anti-Izlamik Iran will return to being Israel's friend -- don't forget that Cyrus the Great was an Iranian/Persian ruler