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Lawyers diGenova, Toensing cannot work on Trump's Russia legal team
Fox News ^ | March 25, 2018 | Joseph Weber

Posted on 03/25/2018 2:29:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right

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To: DarthVader

Good point. I think we’ll see some fireworks when that comes out.


41 posted on 03/25/2018 4:21:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“Sessions does not control the judiciary... He could indict the whole leftist cabal, exactly where do you think the ‘trial’ would be held... Bush/Clinton/Obama appointed judiciary ... The Supremes no longer follow the Constitution and yet you hold some to a higher standard... and demand the Trump administration act just like the pit bulls of the past?”

Sounds like you are suggesting it is hopeless. I’m just saying Trump should not be still sorting his team out a year after taking office. He’s accountable for choosing his lieutenants and their performance or lack thereof. I may agree with his agenda, but if he is failing in execution and staffing, he owns it.

The absence of a strong legal team to combat Mueller is a critical mistake. You may disagree. Time will tell.


42 posted on 03/25/2018 4:24:18 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Soul of the South

I don’t agree with every point in your post #33. In particular, I don’t think the Deep State will get the 2/3 majority needed to convict Trump in the Senate. He’ll be around until 2020, and maybe until 2024. Fighting and feuding, just like President Andy Jackson.

But you made a very reasonable argument. And I saw nothing “DU” about it. It’s a shame that some folks here can’t accept even the smallest criticism of the Donald.


43 posted on 03/25/2018 4:35:07 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Soul of the South
Sounds like you are suggesting it is hopeless. I’m just saying Trump should not be still sorting his team out a year after taking office. He’s accountable for choosing his lieutenants and their performance or lack thereof. I may agree with his agenda, but if he is failing in execution and staffing, he owns it. The absence of a strong legal team to combat Mueller is a critical mistake. You may disagree. Time will tell.

Lying Comey ... fired ... lying McCabe.... fired... The world changes daily... some of President Trump hires, have egos bigger than his... I view it, symbolically speaking, separating the sheep from the goats... politically speaking there are more goats than sheep.

The majority in politics are addicted to doing things the liberal way... self interest first and foremost.

44 posted on 03/25/2018 4:35:29 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Soul of the South; sam_whiskey

The only “troubles” as in your words, are only on the MSM. Go look up tape of yesterday’s Hannity TV show, where he displayed a large blackboard listing Trump accomplishments in just 14 months. It was a very long list, 100+ items!

I appreciate your concern, but relax, Trump is doing just fine. And will do fine for 6 years and 10 months more.


45 posted on 03/25/2018 4:36:57 PM PDT by entropy12 (30 Million low wealth, low skill LEGAL chain migrants in 25 years is growing EXPONENTIALLY..)
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To: Soul of the South

The forces arrayed against Trump are legion. Sums it up well...Great post.


46 posted on 03/25/2018 4:49:52 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

He says great legal folks are breaking down the door to represent him. A lie? Or were you just speculating about the level of quality people.


47 posted on 03/25/2018 4:51:37 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Leaning Right

The senate would convict Trump right now because of his hair.(90%) The senate has always been a sure thing against Trump. The repubs in the house would like a legal fig leaf from mueller before impeachment. The reason why so many have continued to back him.


48 posted on 03/25/2018 4:52:43 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: piasa

They say the Bolton announcement caught him off guard too.


49 posted on 03/25/2018 4:53:29 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

“He says great legal folks are breaking down the door to represent him. A lie? “

I hope that’s true. They know they’ll be entering a gauntlet, though.


50 posted on 03/25/2018 4:56:38 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Soul of the South

A minor error by one of his lieutenants
Has no connection I can see with the subject under discussion
Trump has his own managerial style.
Considering his successes thus far I am quite satisfied and so should everyone else of a consevasive bent. His accomplishments are substantial.


51 posted on 03/25/2018 5:04:42 PM PDT by ZULU (End the Obama/Holder "Promise" program, FIRE Runcie, the $335,000 Broward Co. Stupidintendent of Sc)
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To: Soul of the South

Wow, you cut and pasted the Never Trumper script. Have faith brother, this is the 234th time “Trump is Done”...talk to me in a few weeks when he’s still eating their lunch.


52 posted on 03/25/2018 5:38:17 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: laplata; Leaning Right

I’ll give you a good reason, at least for Toensing. Toensing is married to DiGenova so there may be a conflict in that he has advised her in the following:

Toensing is representing William Campbell. Campbell was an employee in the energy sector who ended up intersecting with the Russian uranium industry. He is witness to crimes of bribery and corruption at the highest levels of government. He was hired by the FBI as a confidential informant, paid by the FBI to gather evidence and spent years compiling records, files, videotapes, audio-recordings and providing eye witness testimony of corruption.

As we all know, this ultimately ended up with the sale of Uranium One by a Russian firm connected to Putin and the Russian government, including a $145 million payment to the Clinton Foundation and $500,000 to Bill Clinton for a speech.

The director of the FBI at the time all this went down? Robert Mueller.

The conflict lies in the fact that Mueller, in investigating Trump, may actually be using his roles as party to obstruction of justice and cover-up of a number of major crimes in which he and/or his direct subordinates have been involved. Campbell was told that his reports were going up to the FBI Director (Mueller) and to the White House (Obama).

As director of FBI Mueller was close to McCabe and Comey who consider him his mentor. These high level members of the FBI among others stand accused of obstructing justice, perjury, manufacturing evidence, unlawful wiretapping of a campaign (and candidate and President-elect), witness tampering, election tampering, whitewashing bribery and corruption, money laundering, conspiracy to commit these crimes and much more. They may be guilty of accepting bribes themselves. And of course to the extent these all this conspiring, whitewashing of Hillary’s actions, and paying foreign agents to concoct lies about Trump were in the effort to tamper with the election.

Mueller’s hands are unclean. His record as FBI director is in case is what makes him exactly the wrong person to lead any investigation into Russian related anything. His investigation is not impartial. His investigation is not lawfully composed. He very clearly hired investigators with dirty hands involved in the crimes I mentioned, and insofar as his mandate is to investigate Russian collusion “whereever the evidence may lead” he has refused to even look at all the obvious Russian connections to the DNC, the HRC campaign, the Clinton Foundation, the State Department and the White House.

The mere fact that the DNC alleges Russia hacked their servers requires a complete and thorough investigation to rule out that there was no collusion inside the DNC. But that is just the tip of the iceberg. We know she took Putin’s money. We know she hired foreign spies to hire Russian spies. We know she had conspirators inside the FBI, State Department and White House. We know her team sat inside foreign embassies to plot their campaign strategies. Mueller ignores it all. He needs to be investigated and so too does the DNC/HRC campaign for the same allegations made against Trump.

So to the extent that Trump may need to go onto a counter-offensive - and I think we absolutely need at least 1 if not 2 more special prosecutors to investigate Mueller and the DNC/HRC Campaigns - these two lawyers are probably conflicted.


53 posted on 03/25/2018 6:24:13 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

Thank you.

I cannot see that in the end Trump is in any danger.


54 posted on 03/25/2018 6:32:07 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Campbell is basically involved in a parallel case against the FBI. I see no conflict in Victoria’s case.


55 posted on 03/25/2018 6:42:17 PM PDT by chiller (If liberals didn't have double standards, they'd have none at all.)
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To: chiller

I no parallel, either, but it looks like that’s one reason for her being ousted. Was it Sekulow’s decision?


56 posted on 03/25/2018 7:03:04 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: monkeyshine

Lots of interesting stuff there. Thanks for the reply.


57 posted on 03/25/2018 7:19:04 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: laplata

The danger to Trump imo has been implied by Mueller and several in the media. They report that Mueller has asked for Trump’s business records. And this is why Trump is changing his legal team to go on the offensive.

Mueller and his deep state puppeteers are going to allege that there was some kind of financial transaction in the past that makes Trump some kind of Manchurian Candidate today.

While I think that degree of collusion is ridiculously unlikely to be true, it is possible that he has sold apartments to people such as Russian diplomats or Russian oligarchs or members of their families, Chinese billionaires, Arab dictators and other people who may not be so highly regarded (and it is very easy for DC people to slander anyone they want to if they want to). So Trump is rightfully resisting turning over any business records - it is a fishing expedition.

I think the main reason Hillary and the FBI paid for that Dossier was to justify the wiretap warrant, and the main reason they wanted the wiretap was hoping to hear some piece of incriminating evidence connecting his campaign to Russia. Remember during the campaign he was out there - sarcastically in his own way - mocking and lambasting Hillary saying things like “Putin, I hope you have those 33,0000 emails, please turn them over to the FBI” and stuff like that. This infuriated Hillary and she was already very weak on the topic of her private server and the DNC “hack”. Her response to Trump’s mocking her was to allege he was in bed with Putin. So they were and are desperate to find something, anything, connecting the two. They found zilch so far and now they want to dig through all his business dealings to see what they may find.


58 posted on 03/25/2018 7:32:01 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Leaning Right

Thanks and you’re welcome. See also #58 if you’re interested.


59 posted on 03/25/2018 7:33:07 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: chiller; MayflowerMadam

See #53 and #58 for my take on that. DiGenova is married to VT and he may have been advising her on the Campbell case. That would make him almost as conflicted as VT herself would be.

You are right in that there are many parallels, but there may inevitably be conflicts for example should Trump need to exert executive privilege against Campbell, particularly as it progresses forward today, while VT pursues Campbell’s case. The DOJ and FBI are under the purview of the Executive and that means Trump is in charge of the defensive side of the case Campbell is pursuing against the FBI and DOJ. That is a direct conflict.


60 posted on 03/25/2018 7:42:43 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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