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Lawyers diGenova, Toensing cannot work on Trump's Russia legal team
Fox News ^ | March 25, 2018 | Joseph Weber

Posted on 03/25/2018 2:29:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right

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But Mueller can fill his team with HRC goons, got it.


21 posted on 03/25/2018 3:08:45 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Soul of the South

Have you ever thought that all the “chaos” might just be scripted to keep the narrative going? “Squirrel!!” Just throwing that out there. You don’t get to be a billionaire in the rough and tumble NYC commercial construction industry by not doing your homework.


22 posted on 03/25/2018 3:13:39 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: dforest

I read it here on FR within the last 3 days and as I recall it was most likely deGenova who was surprised.
I figured they may have discussed the idea but never confirmed it...which would explain the surprise.
Not sure if I saved the comment because it’s not one of my hotbutton issues... but it’s on here somewhere.


23 posted on 03/25/2018 3:17:34 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

When you are the owner and boss of a multi billion dollar company that has no internal rules, save make money, you become used to saying Jump and everyone else says . How high? That environment does not develop a lot of self discipline and introspection. For all the positives that Pres. Trump has achieved these last14 months his lack of self discipline and self accountability is going to bring him down or bring his office to the point of irrelevancy if the Dems win seven months from now.


24 posted on 03/25/2018 3:31:37 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: sam_whiskey

“but your zeal to trash Trump is clearly causing you to ignore the facts.”

Not trying to trash Trump, just illustrating many of his problems are due to the tone deafnesses, inexperience, or incompetence of his picks for key jobs. Throughout the campaign Trump made the point over and over he knew the best managers and people in the country and they would come to work for him. He would assemble the greatest team. Not only has he failed to put great people in jobs, he was slow to nominate people for key positions and has chosen not to fill some of them. Like it or not the leader of an organization is accountable for the performance and behavior of his team. If he is unable to put together an effective and capable team, he will fail. From what I can see his team is in turmoil and the “best people” he said he would bring to Washington are saying “no thanks”. Don’t forget Ted Olsen also turned him down within the past week.

Tillerson, who Trump continues to trash, was not someone he knew before he appointed him and news reports indicate Tillerson was hired by Trump after one meeting. Not the greatest due diligence for what has historically been one of the three most important cabinet secretaries (defense and attorney general being the other two). Speaking of attorney general, his selection recused himself from a significant part of his job during the first week and continues to limp along with one hand tied behind his back. Contrast with Obama who put a pit bull in the AG job who was constantly attacking the administration’s enemies and effectively holding Congressional interference in the policies of the administration at bay.

Not trashing Trump, just holding him accountable.


25 posted on 03/25/2018 3:32:53 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: laplata

He can still advise the president on other issues like the PIG report which I think is more important.


26 posted on 03/25/2018 3:33:54 PM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggeest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: Soul of the South

Don’t see an acknowledgement of your lie anywhere in your post.


27 posted on 03/25/2018 3:35:38 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength.)
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To: Soul of the South
You should have voted for Jezebel then, if you wanted more of the same. Since pappy Bush, ‘government’ has become corrupt from the top down. How long would it take you to sort out 50,000 employees, and restore the rule of law?

Sessions does not control the judiciary... He could indict the whole leftist cabal, exactly where do you think the ‘trial’ would be held... Bush/Clinton/Obama appointed judiciary ... The Supremes no longer follow the Constitution and yet you hold some to a higher standard... and demand the Trump administration act just like the pit bulls of the past?

28 posted on 03/25/2018 3:46:05 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: jjotto

OK


29 posted on 03/25/2018 3:50:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Leaning Right

They probably didn’t know everyone that is under investigation by Mueller.


30 posted on 03/25/2018 3:55:47 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Soul of the South

I think Trump will out think his opponents once again, and what does Carson’s table have to do with anything?


31 posted on 03/25/2018 3:59:00 PM PDT by ZULU (End the Obama/Holder "Promise" program, FIRE Runcie, the $335,000 Broward Co. Stupidintendent of Sc)
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To: dforest; roses of sharon; Cobra64

Ah, I found where I’d read something along those lines but it’s the wrong lawyer. I was wrong, I was thinking of Olsen:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3641623/posts

Thanks for questioning it.

Can’t blame this on a misfired tweet.


32 posted on 03/25/2018 4:03:22 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ripnbang

“Have you ever thought that all the “chaos” might just be scripted to keep the narrative going? “

To some degree I believe some of the chaos is orchestrated. However, it is difficult to put any kind of good spin on the president not having a seasoned and aggressive first class legal team in place and working to defend him from Mueller’s extremely capable team. At this point even if Trump finds the best constitutional lawyer in America to head his team, it is hard to see how a new legal team can be assembled and catch up on nearly a year of preparation. Mueller is going to demand to depose Trump within weeks. It is conceivable Trump will agree to the deposition and not have top drawer representation. A mistake in a Mueller deposition can hang him. Mueller and his team are masters at convicting people for process crimes.

It is pretty clear where we are going. Ryan and McConnell dissed Trump big time on the omnibus bill. They have no love for Trump and had no problem embarrassing him with the base. They’ve demonstrated they will lose seats in the midterms before letting Trump have a wall, defund Planned Parenthood, or complete the staffing of his administration. If the GOP loses the House and Senate in the Midterms, the Democrats will impeach Trump and likely convict him in the Senate to remove him from office. There are at least 10 Republican Senators today who will vote to convict Trump.

Mueller will likely indict Trump and possibly Jared and Donald Jr. for process crimes just before the election. The media and Democrats will go on an all out attack along with the leaders of business and thought leaders of academia. If the Republicans squeak by with one or two houses in the Midterms, Ryan and McConnell will do a deal with the Democrat leadership to join the Dems in a bipartisan impeachment of Trump. It will be positioned as a noble cause to save the country from another year of uncertainty and chaotic governance. If the stock market is down and unemployment is rising, the people will be receptive to calls for change. Soros and Wall Street bankers certainly have the ability to create chaos in the markets in order to turn the people against Trump. The “surprise” collapse before the 2008 elections certainly contributed to the Democrat sweep.

Impeachment is a political process, not a legal process. Ryan and McConnell will go to Trump and urge him to resign. If Trump choses to fight rather than go away quietly we will see Congress work faster than it has in our lifetime. They will run a greased wheel impeachment process with hearings and House vote in January and vote to convict in the Senate by the end of February. It will be a strong bipartisan vote in both Houses. Trump will leave office in embarrassment and the federal government will harass him and his businesses for the rest of his life. There will be no pardon by Pence and Trump may actually go to jail to set an example for anyone in the future who chooses to challenge the established order.

To add insult to injury the GOP establishment will probably put Romney, Jeb, or Graham in the VP role under the new Pence administration. Romney is the likely choice since he is a progressive (acceptable to the Dems) and can be positioned as being a distinguished public servant who puts the nation above partisanship. Of course once the dust clears the media and the Democrats will go on the attack against Pence and the new VP.

Ryan and McConnell have clearly demonstrated they not afraid of Trump. The vote on the omnibus bill demonstrates they have control of both houses, there aren’t enough conservatives in the Republican conference to block even the worst legislation when the leadership twists arms and promises favors.

Don’t forget, Boehner and McConnell worked hard with the Democrats in Congress to destroy the Tea Party, even though the Tea Party put them in power. They cannot allow Trump have a strong bond with the voter base, particularly when his agenda is counter to theirs. They fired a huge shot across Trump’s bow with the omnibus spending bill they put together with Democrats, not Republicans in secret. They smell blood in the water. Meanwhile the Trump administration is is disarray and Mueller is ready to pounce. Trump can’t play offense all by himself and chaos may win some political battles but it doesn’t support orderly governance.

The swamp is deep and Trump is one man. Without a strong team his is a single man in a foxhole under attack by swarms of drones. When the history of Trumps is written, his failure to put in place early a powerful team committed to his agenda may turn out to be his downfall.


33 posted on 03/25/2018 4:04:56 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom

Yes, Victoria is representing that individual.


34 posted on 03/25/2018 4:06:24 PM PDT by ZULU (End the Obama/Holder "Promise" program, FIRE Runcie, the $335,000 Broward Co. Stupidintendent of Sc)
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To: piasa

No problem. We all have so much info to digest.


35 posted on 03/25/2018 4:07:04 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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To: sam_whiskey

“Don’t see an acknowledgement of your lie anywhere in your post.”

I don’t see a reasoned argument coming from you. Debate the points I made. Deflection and personal attacks are the tactics of progressives.


36 posted on 03/25/2018 4:08:55 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Soul of the South
Sniveling and fretting are counter-productive.

Not a good look.

Take it to DU.

37 posted on 03/25/2018 4:10:50 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: ZULU

“I think Trump will out think his opponents once again, and what does Carson’s table have to do with anything?”

Carson’s table is an example of a stupid mistake by a cabinet leader who should know better. The best and brightest rarely make stupid mistakes that distract from their leader’s agenda.

Trump is accountable for his appointees, like it or not. When under unrelenting attack, stupid mistakes are not helpful.


38 posted on 03/25/2018 4:11:58 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: piasa

I think it was Sekulow that first announced Joe to the press, and Olsen has been working for gays and illegals for years now. He most likely is a never-trumper.


39 posted on 03/25/2018 4:15:43 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: roses of sharon

“Sniveling and fretting are counter-productive.
Not a good look.

Take it to DU.”

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.


40 posted on 03/25/2018 4:17:48 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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