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The negative effects of Obama's ‘positive’ school discipline policies
NY Daily News ^ | 03/16/2018 | WILL FLANDERS AND NATALIE GOODNOW

Posted on 03/20/2018 7:11:10 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

The Obama Administration coerced schools nationwide to overhaul their discipline policies. Former Secretary of Education Arne Duncan said the racial disparity in school suspensions wasn't a reflection of problems in our society, but the result of "racial discrimination" in our schools.

So he issued a threat: Even if your school rules are totally fair and administered totally fairly, we may come after you if your discipline numbers aren't racially balanced.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
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If you lost the NY Daily News you lost middle and liberal America.
1 posted on 03/20/2018 7:11:11 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Obama sowed the wind and we are just now reaping the whirlwind. These destructive policies need to be struck down....NOW!


2 posted on 03/20/2018 7:14:20 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Excellent point......maybe they are finally catching
on to the Muslim Halfrican and his destructive agenda.
3 posted on 03/20/2018 7:14:29 AM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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To: Kid Shelleen

What would be of use is for someone to actually help identify how wealthy white liberals who use the public school system avoid their own policies.


4 posted on 03/20/2018 7:16:20 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

...we may come after you if your discipline numbers aren’t racially balanced...

And this is how Zer0 wants it to be balanced. No arrests, prosecution or legal consequences for these misbehaviors and crimes.
This includes -ALL STUDENT MISBEHAVIOR and these non-violent infractions:

1. Disrupting or Interfering with class
2. Fighting in a public place (This is non violent?)
3. Theft if less than $300
4. Vandalism damages < $1,000
5. Disorderly conduct
6. Trespassing, Loitering or Prowling
7. Criminal Mischief
8. Gambling
9. Harrassment or Threats
10. Alcohol -all related offenses
11. Possession of Cannabis
12. Possession of drug Paraphernalia
13. Obstructing Justice without Violence


5 posted on 03/20/2018 7:18:57 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Practically every liberal policy has more and worse negative effects than positive ones.


6 posted on 03/20/2018 7:22:51 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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To: All

CIRCA 2016—
Obama administration unveils new guidelines for school policing

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/obama-administration-schools-clear-limited-roles-police

With the goal of protecting students’ civil rights and limiting unnecessarily harsh school discipline, the Obama administration is calling on schools to ensure that the role of on-site police is limited and clearly defined.

The Obama U.S. departments of Education and Justice has released new resources related to the hiring and training of school resource officers, which come amid national discussions about school discipline and the role of law-enforcement officers following several high-profile student arrests. They are the latest efforts by the administration to reshape school discipline by pushing back against zero-tolerance policies.

“Communities that do not trust cops in their neighborhoods do not want to invite them into their schools with their children.” — Jonathan Stith, Alliance for Educational Justice

Among the resources are guidelines for crafting agreements between schools and local law-enforcement agencies, monitoring the actions of school-based police officers, and training police in such areas as child development and conflict de-escalation.

Those recommended practices will now serve as requirements for agencies that hire school resource officers through Justice Department grants, said Ronald L. Davis, the director of the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services at the agency.

Local law enforcement agencies around the country use those grants, administered on a three-year cycle, to hire between 100 and 150 school resource officers every year, which means about 450 positions are funded by the grants at a given time, a small fraction of officers in schools nationwide, Davis said.

NEW GUIDELINES FOR POLICING IN SCHOOLS
Seek community input when drafting agreements with law-enforcement agencies that detail officers’ roles in schools and limit their involvement in disciplinary issues.
Incorporate local, state, and federal civil rights laws into those agreements and establish processes for monitoring compliance and receiving complaints about potential violations.

Set policies for hiring and training school resource officers on issues like appropriate use of restraints, child development, and the effects of youth involvement with the justice system.

Train teachers and staff to avoid calling on school officers to assist with nonviolent disciplinary issues.

Establish a process for evaluating school resource officers.

SOURCE: Obama’s U.S. departments of Education and Justice


7 posted on 03/20/2018 7:24:50 AM PDT by Liz ((Our side has 8 trillion bullets;the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.))
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To: Kid Shelleen

Obama is the “gift” that just keeps on giving. He’s like gential herpes.


8 posted on 03/20/2018 7:25:09 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: originalbuckeye

No way to run a school system. This all needs to change & very,very soon. Obama still needs to be brought to justice as well.


9 posted on 03/20/2018 7:25:18 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: originalbuckeye
Assaults on teachers are on the rise. In Syracuse, the district attorney forced the schools to reverse course after a teacher was stabbed. The district attorney in St. Paul called the rise of teacher attacks a "public health crisis."

Guns, drugs, and assaults on teachers are up substantially in Charlotte. In Durham, assaults increased more than 50% last year.

10 posted on 03/20/2018 7:27:40 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

And this is why Nikolas Cruz was not arrested when he showed up at Marjory Stoneman Douglas with knives and ammo in his backpack.


11 posted on 03/20/2018 7:28:13 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Same with Travon Martin/ school had him with stolen goods and did nothing.


12 posted on 03/20/2018 7:40:12 AM PDT by jonose
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To: junta

Wealthy white liberals don’t send their kids to public schools. They go to private schools.


13 posted on 03/20/2018 7:41:14 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Kid Shelleen

this is this kind of policy that segregates schools. For example most of my friends refuse to send their kids to black majority school


14 posted on 03/20/2018 7:48:06 AM PDT by Lee25
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

MSD was the epitome of a wealthy white public school. That’s why there is such an outcry. If this would have happened in Miami and the shooter been black, there’d have been crickets.


15 posted on 03/20/2018 8:05:30 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

At a certain point yes, but many house rich cash poor libs look for them “good schools” and that is low hanging fruit


16 posted on 03/20/2018 8:35:43 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I expect Obama to select, but very disappointed Congress approved of Arne Duncan as Secretary of Education. An admitted socialist, anti-Capitalist, who was the Superintendent of the Chicago schools. Chicago had/has the very worst school system in America. Obama said Duncan would bring his innovative ideas to the DOE, and he really did!! Yuk!!


17 posted on 03/20/2018 8:59:01 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Liz
Excellent point......maybe they are finally catching on to the Muslim Halfrican and his destructive agenda.

That would assume some level of ignorance/lack of culpability/desire to do the right thing on the Media's part.

Not possible, as history and the facts show that they are the willing mouthpiece/Propaganda Arm of the DNC/Marxists/Progressives (one and the same thing).

They are neither well-meaning nor ignorant.

They have the same globalist/Establishment/Marxist goals and the Democrats and some of the Republicans.
18 posted on 03/20/2018 9:17:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Kid Shelleen; All
Thank you for referencing that article Kid Shelleen. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"The negative effects of Obama's ‘positive’ school discipline policies"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Regarding whatever policies that the feds might establish for INTRAstate schooling, patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to make policy for intrastate schools.

From related threads …

Consider that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had clarified that powers that the states haven’t expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds are prohibited to the feds, the power to make policy for intrastate schooling not listed among those enumerated powers.

"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

In fact, not only has the Court also clarified that Congress cannot appropriate taxes in the name of state power issues, schooling just one example, but also consider this.

President Thomas Jefferson had officially indicated that the states would first need to amend the Constitution to give the feds the specific power to make policy intrastate schooling purposes before the feds could actually do so, something that the states have never done.

The problem is that parents have evidently not been making sure that their children are being taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood. So when the feds say “jump” regarding school policy (and most other state power issues as well), constitutionally impaired school administrators in this example unthinkingly ask, “how high?”

Note that federal funding for schooling, and many other federal projects in a given state, are arguably stolen state revenues, such revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes according to the Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above.

The remedy …

Patriots need to eliminate the unconstitutional middleman, the unconstitutionally big federal government, from their respective state's budget planning and policy making processes.

And the best place for patriots to start to politically "force" the corrupt feds back into their constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited power cage is this. Patriots need to work with their state lawmakers to support Pres. Trump in leading the states to put a permanent stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

19 posted on 03/20/2018 10:10:21 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s the whole point. Enact laws incentivizing criminal behavior, then come to the “rescue” with expensive “suggestions” on how to “fix” it. See: Welfare payments to unwed mothers.


20 posted on 03/20/2018 6:25:16 PM PDT by Amberdawn (If Leftists Didn't Live By Double Standards, They'd Have No Standards At All.)
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