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To: Winniesboy

What is nonsense is denying the factual reality that the US saved the Euro bacon from both the Nazis and then the Soviets.

Northern and Central Europe were gone to the Blitzkrieg. What power was going to be the arsenal of democracy to save them?

Nobody. It was over for them. Britain was spared only because its island nation was harder to take. But they almost lost their entire army at Dunkirk.

Without us, the Euros are speaking German and after many years, maybe worse, by speaking Russian.

You people are not history deniers. You are clearly factual deniers and have little reasoning power.


71 posted on 03/18/2018 3:30:45 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: rbmillerjr

That’s not the case. Especially given how much collaboration there was in Europe given to both.

It’s also conceivable that there would have been no USSR without the help of the Second Reich, never mind the Fabian sympathizers in Britain.

Ignore Washington’s words at your peril; Wilson and FDR thought they could get away with doing so, almost until it was too late. FDR in particular would have been willing to coexist with a Nazi Europe if it simply refrained from going to war with the USA. And now history is repeating one more time albeit with a different slant; ignoring it this time would be a huge error.


73 posted on 03/18/2018 5:22:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: rbmillerjr
I'm unclear which people you refer to as 'you people'.

Read any objective, reputable history of the Second World War, and you will find nothing to contradict the premiss that Hitler was defeated by an alliance, not by a single nation. (An alliance which, uncomfortable and temporary as it was, included Soviet Russia. Had it not been for Stalingrad and Kursk, there could have been a very different outcome.)

And "Britain was spared only because its island nation was harder to take. But they almost lost their entire army at Dunkirk.". Far from it. I suggest you cast your eye over

Britain's War Machine.

And you forget, inter alia, the Royal Navy, without which D-day would have been impossible (and the total of British and Empire troops on D-day exceeded the total of Americans), not to mention the RAF and the Battle of Britain. The caricature of Britain post-1940 as a hopeless, helpless lost cause which could do nothing to help itself is a fantasy. Not to mention an implied insult to the memory of the 700000 military and 60000 civilians who died defending their country from 1939 onwards.

76 posted on 03/19/2018 1:40:11 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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