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To: Navy Patriot

“All of this possible because of the Fabulous Obama Regime Arab Spring.”

No. It is all a result of the regime change agenda against Assad which was not begun by Obama (it was begun in the 1st term of GWBush) but simply came to great public notice once that agenda used the Arab Spring as the excuse to launch its protests against Assad. Everyone who thought (in the west - the U.S. and Europe, and the Middle East - Turkey, the Gulf, Saudi Arabia) who thought Assad would fall to the “Syrian Opposition” without inviting Iran and Russia in in everywhere he could, was just dreaming. The destabilization of Syria and the giant level of Russian and Iranian involvement was an under appreciated inevitability in my view. The U.S. and its partners took a security situation with Syria that was contained and manageable in my book, and insured, with the regime change agenda, that that situation would become worse. Folks can argue Obama could have done more but (a) merely using American air power early on in support of the “Syrian opposition” (McCain’s desire) would have insured the military success of the best organized best fighting forces of that opposition - the radical Islamists; and (b) the American people under NO PRESIDENT were going to agree to American “troops on the ground” in Syria in a style like Iraq and Afghanistan. That means American options were limited by reality.

The BEST thing for the west would have been if from the beginning the west had made clear to the “Syrian opposition”: Don’t start a war with Assad. It will be yours alone and you will lose. Thousands of lives would have been saved and the security situation vis a vis Iran and Russia as regards Syria would have been back at the manageable level it had been stable at for a long time. The west gave Assad, Russia and Iran all the excuse they needed to advance their (Iran & Putin’s) interests.


39 posted on 03/17/2018 2:55:39 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli; Navy Patriot

President Trump gives a speech to 55 Muslim leaders at the Arab Islamic American Summit.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/21/president-trumps-speech-arab-islamic-american-summit

This was a great speech. The most important aspect of it was he was telling the Muslim world that he is not like his predecessor, his intentions are not to make their country in our image.

This guy, Jeff Dunetz, wrote an article I found to be quite informative, “Islamist Terrorism was Invented in Saudi Arabia, Will it be Destroyed There?”
Nov 26, 2017
http://lidblog.com/islamist-terrorism-invented-saudi-arabia-will-destroyed-also/

In his article he mentions a 2013 UN Report.
Facebook let me publish the entire 2013 EU report in my Facebook Notes. This might be better than the original PDF. By reading the 2013 EU report, its 36 pages long, you see that this Jeff Dunetz article accurately portrays the Saudi caliphate.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/steve-siemen/2013-caliphate-report/10155975830935040/

Excerpt:
When ISIS made overthrowing the Saudi monarchy as a goal, the Saudi’s began to see the connection between Wahhabism and terrorism and started moving away from their 270-year alliance with Wahhabism.

In 2014, Reuters reported that then King Abdullah pressured the senior clergy in Saudi Arabia to denounce terrorist doctrines promoted by the likes of al Qaeda or ISIS, and they started vetting the kingdom’s 70,000 mosques, firing the clerics who promote terrorism.

A May 2017 visit by President Trump elicited a Saudi promise to fight terrorism.
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That visit by Trump must have been the Arab-Islamic/American Summit.

Now, as I mentioned before, the CIA had an operation called Timber Sycamore that trained and armed the rebels. The Saudis funded much of the operation.

This did start in 2011. Our nation hated Assad in the previous administration, but the Arab Spring started in 2011. The CIA was headed by Brennan who had worked closely with the Arabs. Hillary was getting paid by the Arabs. Her closest confidant Huma Abedin was Muslim Brotherhood, so was Morsi that became Egypt’s president. Morsi’s wife was good friends with Hillary. Obama lived 5 years with a Muslim stepdad in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world.

It is looking like they were all in on a caliphate. If you look at how the refugees spread throughout the world due to the Arab Spring, it looks likely that this was planned.

We know Hillary was in it for the money. We know that Comey worked for Hillary’s Clinton Foundation. I don’t know how Mueller delivering uranium to Russia fits in.

What we do know is that the Saudis dropped the hardline Islam approach and turned to a more moderate Islam granting some women’s rights. After Trump’s visit they united to cut off the money flow to ISIS and placed sanctions on Qatar for promoting violence through al Jazeera and financially supporting ISIS.

The Saudis, UAE and I forget who else recognized that social media was what incited the Arab Spring.

I’ll post that next.


40 posted on 03/17/2018 4:03:59 PM PDT by Haddit (Minimalists Al Gore and Al Qaeda)
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To: Wuli

What caused the Arab Spring?

The Alliance of Youth Movement
November 18, 2008, two weeks after Obama was elected president
http://www.adweek.com/digital/facebook-and-the-alliance-of-youth-movements-summit/

Nick O’Neill of Adweek writes: “This morning I had the privilege to sit in on a panel for the Washington, D.C. Economic Partnership, in which everybody in the room was excited about two things: the new administration’s full embrace of technology, and how social technology is transforming the political realm. It is no longer required for a group of people to get together in a room and make change happen.”

“Inspired by this change, “Facebook, Access 360Media, Columbia Law School, Google, Howcast, MTV, YouTube, and the U.S. Department of State are bringing leaders of 17 pioneering organizations from 15 countries together with technology experts next month for the first-ever conclave to empower youth against violence and oppression through the use of the latest online tools. ” The event is called the Alliance of Youth Movements Summit.”

From Breitbart
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/23/hillary-clinton-sponsored-secretive-arab-spring-program-that-destabilized-middle-east/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

Jared Cohen, a Google executive, was a member of the U.S. Secretary of State’s Policy Planning Staff under the Bush administration and then Obama’s.

Cohen said:

“We are seeing movements across the world use adiverse set of technologies. The simplest is Television, where we are seeing groups that have the means put their videos and images on screen in the form of commercials. But we are seeing a lot of activities using mobile phones and theInternet.”
“With mobile phones, there is a tactic called “smartmobbing,” where mobile phones are used to assemble young people around a cause.On the Internet, we are seeing online social networks like Facebook, MySpace,Bebo, and Orkut serve as important forums for young people to assemble together, build a cause, a mission, and organize events.”

In Cohen’s capacity working for Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State, he focused on counter-terrorism, counter-radicalization, Middle East/South Asia, Internet freedom, and fostering opposition in repressive countries. Right before his departure Cohen was one of the participating architects of what was labeled in 2010 as “21stcentury statecraft” along with Richard Boly and several foreign service officers in the Department of State’s Office of eDiplomacy In 2013,Cohen was named by Time Magazine as one of its 100 most influential people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Cohen

Egypt frees Google manager who became protest hero
February 7, 2011
CAIRO — Egypt on Monday released a Google Inc. executive who became a hero of anti-government protesters after he vanished nearly two weeks ago while taking part in demonstrations calling for the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak.

Protesters in Cairo’s central Tahrir Square say Wael Ghonim, amarketing manager for the Internet company, was one of the main youthful organizers of the online campaign that sparked the mass protests on Jan. 25.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/7/egypt-approves-15-raise-government-employees/

Under President Obama we created a CIA program called Timber Sycamore where we trained the youth in the Middle East, gave them weapons, support and money to overthrow their governments. Many of them became ISIS, we knew it and supported them anyway. I use this Wiki reference because when I copied it, it said that the CIA had taught thousands of rebels. The news downplays the numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

Hillary and the Alliance of Youth Movement Speech
Hillary and Obama use Youtube, Facebook and Twitter to kill people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcBG7B6sgOk&app=desktop
U.S. Department of State
Published on Oct 16, 2009

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton records a video message for participants of the Alliance of Youth Movements Summit in Mexico City, Mexico October 16, 2009. Go to http://www.state.gov/video for more video and text transcript.

Hillary:
I want to congratulate all of you that have come to Mexico City in person and online to be part of this ground breaking summit. You are the vanguard of a rising generation of citizen activists who are using the latest technological tools to catalyze change, build a movement and transform lives and I hope this conference provides an opportunity for you to learn from each other and discover the tools and techniques that will open new doors for activism and empowerment when you return home.

All over the world young people like you are driving progress. In Columbia two young college graduates fed up with violence in their country used Facebook to organize 14 million people into the largest anti-terrorism demonstration in history. In Iran we saw young people using Twitter and Youtube to communicate with each other and the world. Despite a government crackdown designed to keep them quiet. In India a 14 year old high school student from Mumbai used social networking to link together half a million people that sought solidarity and support in the aftermath of the November 2008 terrorist attack.

You have all traveled … paths to get here today, you come from different cultures and countries and speak different languages but you all share a common commitment to engaging with the world using every tool at your disposal to bring people together to solve problems. And that makes you the kind of leader we need.

As we work to meet the challenges and seize the opportunities of the 21century, government can’t do it alone, citizens organizations, businesses, universities everyone with a stake in our shared future must take responsibilities for shaping it. That’s what we call 21st century statecraft. So thank you for being on the front line of progress and I can’t wait to see what all of you do next.

President Obama has created a rebel organization called Organizing for Action. https://www.ofa.us/

Hillary’s rebel organization is called Onward Together.
https://www.onwardtogether.org/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4257384/Hillary-surfaces-three-minute-address-Democrats.html
2/24/2017

Hillary:

“Hello Democrats”
“After the primaries we came together as a primary to write the most progressive platform in history. Ideas we championed are now inspiring leaders and activists across our country. Nearly 66 million votes are fueling grass roots energy and activism and everywhere people are marching, protesting, tweeting, speaking out and working for an America that’s hopeful, inclusive and big-hearted.”

“From the Women’s March to airports where communities are welcoming immigrants, refugees and people of every faith, to town hall meetings where people are speaking up for healthcare, the environment, good jobs and all the other issues that deserve our passionate support.”

We killed 475,000 people in Syria and made many millions of refugees.


41 posted on 03/17/2018 4:05:43 PM PDT by Haddit (Minimalists Al Gore and Al Qaeda)
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To: Wuli
It is all a result of the regime change agenda against Assad which was not begun by Obama (it was begun in the 1st term of GWBush)...

Yes, you are correct, Regime Change for Iraq and Syria WAS initiated by President G W Bush, and I incorrectly attributed it to Obama.

Bush is as much a Globalist as Obama and I should have remembered that and incorporated it into my short history of US political objectives for Syria.

Thanks for the correction.

44 posted on 03/17/2018 5:49:25 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America needs another European World War)
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