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Florida International University Bridge Collapses, Cars Underneath
miami.cbslocal.com ^ | 03/15/2018 | Staff

Posted on 03/15/2018 11:32:16 AM PDT by Red Badger

MIAMI (CBSMiami) — Florida International University’s massive new pedestrian bridge collapsed Thursday afternoon in West Miami-Dade.

The bridge, located at 109th Ave and 8th Street, collapsed on a number of cars.

There are reports of numerous people injured in the collapse. At least one person was taken as a trauma alert to the hospital, according to Miami-Dade Fire Rescue.

The 950-ton bridge went up on Saturday. It was then lowered into its final position, just west of 109th Avenue that day.

The main span was built next to Southwest 8th Street.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 100yearbridge; bridge; bridgecollapse; cat5hurricane; epicfail; fiu; fiubridge; florida; hindsightis2020; miami; stresstest
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To: Freee-dame

Or GA Techs?

5.56mm


481 posted on 03/15/2018 4:14:32 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: King Hawk
I wonder if anyone was walking across it when it went down?
That must have been shocking.

First thing that occurred to me was to wonder if the designers were aware that the highest load that you can put on any bridge is wall to wall people. since people never got to use it, it's a moot point. But if...

The Golden Gate Bridge 50th Anniversary with wall to wall people its entire length (300,000+ people) Is a classic example of the massive weight.

There is an iconic color photo that appeared at the time which I think might be on a poster too, but I have never be able find one to buy a copy. The bridge looks flat between the towers from the weight.

I can't help wondering if there was pressure at work from wherever to prevent public distribution of that image.

482 posted on 03/15/2018 4:18:47 PM PDT by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
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To: cyn

FIGG has had a bridge collapse before!! And they were fined.


483 posted on 03/15/2018 4:22:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: matthew fuller
As an engineer in training I was taught that in civil engineering (bridges and such), the factor was 5. Early sixties.

Back around that same time my Dad, an engineer and an architect, told me the same thing. On bridges and such they always designed in a safety factor of five.

484 posted on 03/15/2018 4:25:44 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: KittyKares
they have both architecture and engineering.

But they don't do any good if you sleep through the classes.

As several people have pointed out, this is a suspension span ... with no suspension. A detail not safely overlooked.

485 posted on 03/15/2018 4:28:54 PM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: Sacajaweau
Construction law - the history is ancient!

From Hammurabi's Code to the present in a nutshell.

486 posted on 03/15/2018 4:35:27 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: generally

The octopus has tentacles.


487 posted on 03/15/2018 4:37:23 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Sacajaweau
Somebody missed a couple decimals while calculating load. Sounds similar to another bridge collapse many years back.....maybe 20??

The I-35 bridge in Minnesota collapsed in 2007 (original design flaw (which held up for 40 years though)); a new pedestrian walkway within the Kansas City Hyatt collapsed on its first evening of use in 1981 (construction mistake). Those are the ones that come to mind immediately.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_bridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse

488 posted on 03/15/2018 4:39:01 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: mewzilla
This puts in mind of a book by Henry Petroski... To Engineer Is Human The Role of Failure in Successful Design .

An excellent book. I've read it in its entirety at least three or four times over the years.

489 posted on 03/15/2018 4:46:36 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: JME_FAN
At least the Tacoma Narrows Bridge stood for 24 years before finally succumbing to the effects of wind-induced harmonic coupling.

Four months, and obvious problems on Day One: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940)

490 posted on 03/15/2018 4:53:43 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Alberta's Child

Right link: https://facilities.fiu.edu/projects/BT_904/FIU-Pedestrian-Bridge-Design-Criteria-2015-05-06_REV.pdf


491 posted on 03/15/2018 4:53:47 PM PDT by cyn
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To: skimbell

I think this was the bridge used by thousands of kids as they marched out of school for that gun violence day thing. (J/K)


492 posted on 03/15/2018 4:58:48 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
IOW, if you want your bridge to support up to 10,000 people, you design and build it to support 25,000 people?

10,000 fat people :-)

493 posted on 03/15/2018 5:04:34 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: tomkat

I’m pretty sure the diagonal structures are just to make the bridge look cool. “Hey - we’re already over budget - lets get rid of that artsy stuff!”

I can’t imagine all the people involved that missed the critical features. Here in Seattle they had to tear down a 12 year old, 14-story building because someone didn’t dab epoxy on the ends of some steel cables - they started rusting through.

So the worker didn’t do his job, his manager didn’t, the company inspector, and the city inspector. (I might be missing someone.).


494 posted on 03/15/2018 5:06:28 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve; Alberta's Child
I’m pretty sure the diagonal structures are just to make the bridge look cool

And I'm pretty sure one of our engineers will be along shortly to disabuse you of that notion  ;-)
If there was any cosmetics involved, it might have been some type of decorative cladding on the cable stays.

There was to be two spans of that 'bridge', one over the road and the other shorter half over the canal next door.
The supporting pylon was to sit in a grassy area between the two, with the cable supporting both halves.

Not cosmetic at all, but - very obviously - absolutely necessarily, structurally.

495 posted on 03/15/2018 5:14:15 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: ps
there was were
496 posted on 03/15/2018 5:15:02 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat
jeez .. necessarily necessary
497 posted on 03/15/2018 5:17:22 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: 21twelve

See pic in #477 above


498 posted on 03/15/2018 5:19:58 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I coukdnt get thru the first paragraph before dropping my jaw.


499 posted on 03/15/2018 5:22:17 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: tomkat

My first thought was substandard Chinese steel. I once heard an interview with someone at a large construction firm who talked about how the Chinese manipulated steel testing results. But it sounds like there are a lot of other potential causes.


500 posted on 03/15/2018 5:26:46 PM PDT by Kipp
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