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Lost in the chaos Branch Davidian tragedy at 25: How the story overtook the storytellers
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| 2/24/2018
| J. B. Smith
Posted on 02/25/2018 6:40:59 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Slyfox
The narrative was that the roof "collasped" on those huddled underneath, killing them in the fire, but the following two photos show a hole in reinforced concrete that is not the result of a collapse but rather of a high explosive charge, and also of people standing on the allegedly collapsed roof - except that the room interior is dark, which means the roof didn't collapse. (Otherwise it would have been filled with daylight.) The Davidians were murdered by the US government.
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posted on
02/25/2018 7:46:56 PM PST
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: GeoPie
They did an excellent, and fair and balanced, job. So fair in fact I am shocked it ever got aired on American TV, cable or otherwise.
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posted on
02/25/2018 7:53:51 PM PST
by
TTFlyer
To: gaijin
To preface,I have nothing but disdain for that POS preacher who called himself a god.
One of the most sickening events in American history at so many levels.
FUBC,FUJR and the rest of what shamelessly called itself American government. Nothing has gotten any better since then. That fact that the dog of a wife of the former POS treasonous,Commie,libtard hick from Arkansas came very close to assuming a throne is sickening.
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posted on
02/25/2018 8:16:57 PM PST
by
shanover
(...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
To: SaveFerris
Ross Perot said something like “Being president is a stressful job. You get elected and a month later Jesus shows up in Waco.”. Like I said, something like that.
I worked about 14 miles from the compound. Drove by it many times. Left the area about a year before the raid.
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posted on
02/25/2018 8:17:30 PM PST
by
Terry Mross
(Liver spots And blood thinners..)
To: sockmonkey
Im not sure she is smiling, they are wearing radios on left shoulder, maybe she is speaking into the mic...
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posted on
02/25/2018 8:45:25 PM PST
by
Max_850
To: TTFlyer
I am watching it and I will say that until I watched this (last episode on Tuesday I believe), I thought the BD’s were just a bunch of wackos who deserved what happened to them. At the time, the media did a great job protecting the FBI and everyone else except the BD’s. I see now that they did not deserve death and really were trying to just live a quiet life.
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posted on
02/25/2018 9:27:18 PM PST
by
napscoordinator
(Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
To: Elderberry
The video crew was assaulted by authorities who were angry about their f*** up being caught on camera. I think they even tried to get them to surrender the tape. That attack was caught on video too.
It appeared in one of the Waco documentaries (not the Oscar nominee).
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posted on
02/26/2018 12:02:28 AM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
To: Elderberry
The KKK offered their help to the authorities (again footage in one of the documentaries).
But the media never played up that Klan endorsement of the attack on the “Waco” compound.
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posted on
02/26/2018 12:05:13 AM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
02/26/2018 12:34:06 AM PST
by
a fool in paradise
(Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
To: Vendome
To prevent them the pain of being burned alive
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posted on
02/26/2018 5:00:07 AM PST
by
uncbob
To: morphing libertarian
what was illegal about using cs gas?
Wouldn't nerve gas have been more humane?
To: SaveFerris
Looking back, I didn't realize just how short of a time WJC had been in office. And Janet ("The Torch") Reno wasn't confirmed as AG until March 11.
ML/NJ
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posted on
02/26/2018 5:15:16 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: TTFlyer
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posted on
02/26/2018 5:23:02 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: Elderberry
The local sheriff said that if when he went to serve any warrant, he had no issues but then he never showed up with an army.
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posted on
02/26/2018 5:28:39 AM PST
by
bmwcyle
(People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
To: Elderberry
I'm always amazed by those here forget the crimes committed by David Koresh. Did the innocents deserve what they got at the hands of the government? Absolutely not, but David Koresh was a child abuser of the worst kind.
Those that lived in the area and knew the cult, knew the children were sexually, mentally, and physically abused and had reported the situation for YEARS. LACK of action for so long by the police is what got the situation to where it was.
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posted on
02/26/2018 6:42:28 AM PST
by
TexasGunLover
("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
To: The_Media_never_lie
Non responsive to question generally the use of cs was not illegal
To: Vendome
A guy in my Bible Study was indirectly involved. He was part of the military group that told the FBI that military personnel could not be used with the equipment. They ended up getting the National Guard to fly the choppers.
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posted on
02/26/2018 7:10:02 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
To: TexasGunLover
Sounds familiar (Parkland)?
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posted on
02/26/2018 7:11:13 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
To: morphing libertarian
Non responsive to question generally the use of cs was not illegal
From wikipedia: Another assault came at 9am with the tanks inserting another four bottles of CS. By that time, the levels of tear gas inside the building were reaching extremely high levels. A 1995 report prepared by Failure Analysis Associates for the National Rifle Association estimated that when the third assault ended, CS concentrations inside the building ranged from "30 to 90 times that required to deter trained soldiers." The report also found that levels of methylene chloride, a compound similar to chloroform, were reaching levels nearly two times those considered "immediately dangerous to life and health" -- IDLH, a common measure of toxicity for chemical compounds.
I believe David Koresh/Vernon Howell was scum. However, it might not be illegal to gas women and children in a confined area, but it surely is unethical.
To: uncbob
"...What does the BATF have to do with children... B urn
All
Toddlers
First
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posted on
02/26/2018 12:41:25 PM PST
by
T-Bone Texan
(They are they enemy. Know them as you know yourself.)
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