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1 posted on 02/20/2018 3:54:52 AM PST by smileyface
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This article isn’t a joke??? For one thing it contradicts what the left said about every terrorist attack - that we were dealing with some poor crazy individual. Now non-terror mass murders by insane people have no connection to inanity? It’s just the guns???


2 posted on 02/20/2018 4:02:35 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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Wow! I looked at the comments, the first forty or so seemed pro-Trump and down on the “news” article. Then I noticed the likes and dislikes; astonishingly in favor of the pro-Trump comments. You’d think that the writer would look to see how his article is being received and adjust his view. Or, at least stop writing articles like that one. The publisher should take note also, as they are trying to sell their wares.


3 posted on 02/20/2018 4:03:25 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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Medical community does not like to called on the carpet for their mistakes. Too many pharma drugs. And they wonder why we have a recreational drug problem?!


4 posted on 02/20/2018 4:04:28 AM PST by captain_dave
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The “medical community” wants to ban guns and doesn’t want to hear about mental illness? The left is so evil and dangerous it’s beyond comprehension by a normal person. I guess it’s no surprise they fear any focus on insanity. Their own.


5 posted on 02/20/2018 4:05:35 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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“The vast majority of gun violence is not attributable to mental illness.”

Nobody, including Trump, ever said it was. Gang bangers in Chicago are not mentally ill, they’re just criiminals. But every single school shooter - which was that Trump was talking about - has proven to be mentally ill or shown to have a history either of treatment or referrals to treatment long before they got to the shooting or bomb-building stage.

To make it worse, Florida has a law that makes it virtually impossible to get these kids out of the classroom or even out of the school so no matter how much trouble they cause and how many “warning signs” there are in the years leading up to the shooting, the schools are unable to protect their students.

We need to discuss not only getting the mentally ill out of the schools, but providing involuntary long-term residential treatment. This kid, Nicolaus, had a long history of violent behavior, including beating his mother; the police had been called 39 times. So clearly just sending them home is not the solution.


6 posted on 02/20/2018 4:05:37 AM PST by livius
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What should be looked into is the pharmaceuticals that have messed up the minds of many who were prescribed them. Also look into which pols receive donations from those who push these poisons.


7 posted on 02/20/2018 4:08:23 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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Sure the vast majority of violence isnt directly related to mental illness but the vast majority of mass murders certainly are. How disingenuous can these so called experts be?


8 posted on 02/20/2018 4:11:38 AM PST by MrRelevant
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NO amount of laws or background checks can stop these events .If someone REALLY wants to kill a lot of people they WILL do it by any means necessary.he could have killed many more ramming into a crowd with a car or truck while they were lining up for school busses.


9 posted on 02/20/2018 4:12:38 AM PST by Renegade
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Worth saying again and again: “Liberalism is a mental disorder.”


10 posted on 02/20/2018 4:12:41 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Like firearms confiscation, putting even more people on psychotropic medicines or in counseling is just another ineffective treatment of the symptoms of the much larger problem of societal collapse, perpetrated by the Regressives in our midst.

The removal of religion from the public square, disintegration of traditional two-parent families, promotion of sexual perversion in multiple forms, destruction of cultural norms, conversion of the education system into a massive Socialist propaganda machine, the flooding of the media — music, movies, TV, news — with endless messages of violence, sex, and profanity, celebration of drug abuse, devaluation of human life through abortion, murder, and euthanasia.


11 posted on 02/20/2018 4:12:47 AM PST by nickedknack
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The real culprits and the guilty in the Broward county High School slaughter.

- The Shooter - Nikolas Cruz
- The Social Services of Broward County, Florida
- The Broward County, Florida Sheriff & Police Force
- The DOJ/FBI massive failure to protect innocent Americans
- The parents and voters in Broward county that elected & supported these so-called, “progressive” incompetent, could care less public servants.

If you cannot figure this out...then you have been smoking too much reefer, drinking too much booze, are a Democrat liberal in Broward County, or are nuts, yourself. Case closed. God bless our dearest innocent, beautiful children & those adult heroes that gave their lives to protect these innocents. However, no prayers for your “Criminal” Democrat Congresswoman, Debbie Wassermann Schultz. If you voted for her or support her...you should hang your head in shame.

12 posted on 02/20/2018 4:13:10 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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I agree, the vast majority of gun violence (as if guns are violent all by themselves) are not the result of mental illness, but the vast majority of mass shootings are done by people who have been heavily medicated for years. The over prescribing of meds for just about everything is evident all over. I know people in my own family who are on a wide range of meds from high blood pressure to anti-depressants, they’re like a walking pharmacy with their ever present bag of meds.


13 posted on 02/20/2018 4:14:17 AM PST by euram
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"NeverTrumpers and liberals denounce President Trump's ___________fill in the blank____________"

YAWN

14 posted on 02/20/2018 4:14:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing 14 times in a row.)
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Well, if it’s not mental illness, then they must be evil, right? But I thought people couldn’t be evil because there is no God. Having a hard time keeping up these days...


15 posted on 02/20/2018 4:15:16 AM PST by Jagman
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Lock up the loonies.

The drugs don’t make them sane, they permit them to pass for normal until they don’t take their meds, or they augment them with recreational drugs, or or or... whatever happens before they experience a major malfunction.

The Left wants chaos in society and there is a subset within the radical Left that has embraced insanity as a rational balance to modern society.


16 posted on 02/20/2018 4:15:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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"The concept that mental illness is a precursor to violent behavior is nonsense," said Dr. Louis Kraus, forensic psychiatry chief at Chicago's Rush University Medical College

This guy is the problem in a nutshell.

The school shooting problem IS a problem, no use denying it.

And it is a psychiatry problem, first and foremost, a PUBLIC PSYCHIATRY problem.

Yes, teachers should be free to carry. Yes, schools should have restricted entrances that can be secured. Yes, there should be a plan to secure the interior of the building.

But just as having us kids learn to cover our necks so that the flying glass from NYC getting nuked wouldn't sever our 9-year old spinal cords bred a generation of peaceniks, teaching children that it's normal for crazy dangerous people to be walking around, and that there's nothing any grownup can do about it, will have its consequences as well.

Every kid in every school that has pre-violent sociopaths attending knows EXACTLY who they are, and many kids have already been threatened by them or are afraid they will be.

Mental illness is ABSOLUTELY a precursor to violence, and if you don't like calling it "mental illness" then focus on the behaviors that ALL school shooters exhibit before they do it, and target those kids and young adults for removal.

The whole public psychiatry establishment rests on a stupid Jack Nicholson movie and a stupid book by Thomas Szasz, and that needs to change.

18 posted on 02/20/2018 4:20:34 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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Certainly not all mentally ill people are violent but some most assuredly are! And given that we,acceding to the demands of Marxist "therapists",shut down most of our psychiatric hospitals in the 70's and 80's we now have no place to put the violent ones.

In an earlier day this pig would have been in a locked psychiatric ward long before he did his dastardly deed.

22 posted on 02/20/2018 4:47:20 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama & Hillary: The Two Most Corrupt Politicians of My Lifetime.)
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A former co-worker of mine is now serving a 60 year sentence for murdering his room mate. Why did he kill her? Because the voices in his head told him to. He was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia 8 years before he started working for us. He was very disruptive in the office and made many people uncomfortable. He made threats to co-workers and talked about violence. He was with my company only for 5 months but his behavior was the same in all the other companies he worked for until the murder.

How did he kill his room mate? He first strangled her and when she became unconscious, he butchered her with a knife. (It was so violent, he broke the knife in 3 different pieces) When the mentally ill kill or assault, it is typically with everyday items: knives, blunt force objects, hand guns, their bare hands, etc. They can use guns as weapons but its not that is not the common method.

Cruz could have brought a knapsack to school filled with explosives and detonated it in the crowded cafeteria killing 17. Or Cruz could have taken his car and used to to run down fellow students on the school’s sidewalks when they were leaving school, killing 17. These common methods are used by both terrorists and the mentally ill nowadays to kill. It would be easy for Cruz to do either one especially the car since it would have taken little to no planning and create no suspicion.

The bottom line is that if the mentally ill are determined to kill, they will and will use any means around them to do so. To single out one weapon that is rarely used and act as if that will make all the difference to stop the killing is ridiculous. In my research, it is estimated that 3-4 people are murdered by someone with a severe mental illness everyday in this country. These are typically individual murders and the weapons used are usually knives, bare hands, handguns, hammers, etc. You never hear about these crimes since they are only involving one person.

Those with severe mental disorders can become violent and deadly. They need to be watched constantly and once they are deemed a threat to themselves or others, need to be institutionalized. Somehow making it hard for the mentally ill to access just one weapon is not going to have any significant impact on the problem.


25 posted on 02/20/2018 4:50:05 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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Mental health issues are not where the leftist crazies want to focus—they want to focus on disarming the populace so they can take over. Beware an armed government and an unarmed populace. Remember Tienanmen Square.


32 posted on 02/20/2018 5:43:16 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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"The vast majority of gun violence is not attributable to mental illness."

Typical, lying libtard "smoke & mirrors" use of statistics!

Overall (as in punk-infested Chicago) that may well be the case.

BUT, in mass shootings (including school shootings, the subject of this article) mental state is invariably a huge factor!

34 posted on 02/20/2018 5:46:39 AM PST by TXnMA (MSM? No, thanks -- I prefer my news from the other end of the horse...)
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