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From what I gather from this and other articles, Cruz was a disturbed individual who had several suspensions and finally was expelled for multiple fights, threats to students, and bullets in his backpack. He was barred from carrying a backpack on campus before his expulsion.

To the fools who think the government can protect us from criminals, jihadists and the insane, consider we already have laws governing these things.

Articles note that he wasn't on the authorities radar screen. My guess, the mandatory reporters he encountered every day failed in their job. Fights, aka assaults, but no police involvement. A warning to teachers, but none to authorities. We have laws pertaining to those who are a threat to self or others. They end up committed to institutions. And though they may well be let out before they're no longer a threat, we have laws making it a felony to possess or attempt to purchase a firearm. Articles note he purchased the AR15 legally, that's on the authorities who knew he was a threat, but didn't take the steps required by law.

1 posted on 02/15/2018 5:34:38 AM PST by SJackson
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So was the FBI.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3632241/posts

https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasacks/the-fbi-was-warned-about-a-school-shooting-threat-from?utm_term=.ekGxVPxZX#.fmeakja3g


2 posted on 02/15/2018 5:37:14 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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>>A teacher said Mr Cruz was not allowed on campus with a backpack.

As an adult, he should not have been allowed on campus during the daytime period.

If at 19 he was still attending classes somewhere, perhaps he should have been enrolled in night school.


3 posted on 02/15/2018 5:40:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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Cruz was a disturbed individual ...
A) How the hell did he get a gun?
B) Why haven't I heard a single word about his parents?
4 posted on 02/15/2018 5:40:35 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I heard that the shooter hit the fire alarm before he started shooting. If this is true, it’s a new and pretty smart tactic. You get everyone out of the school in standing groups, clear of any immediate cover, and then you mow them down.

A new thing for Law enforcement to think about.

I have an iron clad solution to this whole school shooting thing: Abolish public schools. They are no longer needed for education thanks to all the online curriculum and other methods for learning that are available.

Their only pressing need, and the real reason most would abhor this solution is that they are necessary for day care, now that both parents HAVE TO WORK just to make ends meet. And that is actually part of the problem here.


5 posted on 02/15/2018 5:41:23 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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My cousin’s son went to MSD until they moved back to New Jersey earlier this year. When he heard about the shooting, he told her exactly who did it, literally within a minute. If a kid who used to go to that go school and now lives a thousand miles away could finger this kid, why was nothing done?


6 posted on 02/15/2018 5:42:50 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative ( Isaiah 40:31)
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No back pack allowed

Guitar case with a rifle was ok however.


7 posted on 02/15/2018 5:44:27 AM PST by Thibodeaux (The FISA judge is corrupt)
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Fine. The teachers were "warned".

But, since the teachers were not armed and since teachers are no longer allowed to pick up delinquent drop-out former students by the scruffs of their necks and physically remove them from school property, what were the teachers supposed to do?

After all, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

The bottom line is, teachers in "Drug Free School Zones" have been rendered every bit as helpless as their students.

9 posted on 02/15/2018 5:46:24 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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Warned?

Either he is a danger and teachers should be armed, or not.


10 posted on 02/15/2018 5:47:03 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Sloppy, careless management. It cost a bunch of lives. Another example of academia being run by weak liberals.


11 posted on 02/15/2018 5:47:56 AM PST by EagleUSA
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Horrible crimes like this require calm, deliberation. A complete analysis is needed to find all facts and identify ways to enhance security. With that, we might find laws that were never enforced where they should have been, which could have prevented tragedy.

Unfortunately, because the left is a bunch of cynical commie @ssholes, in every case, we never get past their screaming about taking everybody’s guns.


14 posted on 02/15/2018 5:49:13 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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What good does it do to warn teachers of anything? They aren’t armed. Most aren’t trained in self-defense. They have one job and avoiding whackos with guns isn’t it... especially trueif you aren’t going to allow them or anyone but a single school resource officer to have the tools necessary to combat a shooter. It’s like issuing a tornado warning to a pasture full of sheep.

This is on law enforcement with some on the school district as well (added security could have helped). Near as I can tell from afar, all the signs were there.


15 posted on 02/15/2018 5:49:29 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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There was a caller on one of the shows yesterday whose district called in the local cops the day after Sandy Hook to come in and make recommendations.

Unfortunately I was driving and couldn’t take notes, but a number of the suggestions were dead simple. One, was to invite the cops to do their report writing at the school, giving them a frequent and random presence there, rather than at the local Starbucks. They implemented that one the very next day.

Another was to have the SROs (School Resource Officers) keep their ARs in a readily accessible safe on the campus, rather than require them to leave them out in their cars.

Others required a bit more work, restricting entry to a single point, ability to lock down zones to isolate an assailant, and to provide video feed from their existing cameras to responding officers.


17 posted on 02/15/2018 5:50:52 AM PST by null and void (What do the democrats stand for? Not lower food stamp dependence...)
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...We were told last year that he wasn’t allowed on campus with a backpack on him...

That says just about it all about this psychopath.


22 posted on 02/15/2018 5:52:35 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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Federal and state laws make it almost impossible to keep a student out of school. I know of a case where a student threatened to kill a teacher at one school and was merely transferred to another school without alerting teachers in the other school.

Some districts have detention schools, but districts have to jump through hoops to have students placed in them.

This all comes under the concept of preventing any and all discrimination. Discrimination is, due to extremely punitive laws, the fire breathing dragon that all school districts have to contend with at every level.


32 posted on 02/15/2018 5:59:30 AM PST by odawg
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MSM is calling it “a senseless act.” I disagree.

From what we already know about this guy, his Facebook info and school info and schoolmate claims, this was almost to be expected, therefore making sense.

The senselessness was the guy not being committed to a psych ward for observation, testing and treatment. At the very least, removal from society.


51 posted on 02/15/2018 6:14:09 AM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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"We were told last year that he wasn't allowed on campus with a backpack on him," Mr Gard told the Miami Herald. "There were problems with him last year threatening students, and I guess he was asked to leave campus."

Then why was he allowed to be on campus at all? They should have kicked him out. And how is someone like this allowed into the ROTC program?!

64 posted on 02/15/2018 6:28:07 AM PST by al_c (LIBERAL - Laughable Iconsiderate Blaming Entitled Ranting Anti-christian Loudmouth)
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Just like the church shooter not long ago. I think it was that he was not allowed to own weapons but personnel in the military that should have put him in a database failed to do so. If so many of our people aren’t doing their jobs nothing is going to work no matter how many laws and regs are on the books.


73 posted on 02/15/2018 6:44:27 AM PST by kelly4c
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My post from another thread (former school board chair )

In today’s world why are these schools not locked down? Our schools here are. No one in or out without authorization. You must be buzzed in. This individual was a known problem, was not attending, and was only restricted if he had a back pack? Administration dropped the ball big time here and people payed with their lives. Gross negligence.


74 posted on 02/15/2018 6:44:52 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Warned? Sounds like.
Prepared? Apparently not.


84 posted on 02/15/2018 6:54:30 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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Didn’t the superintendent say he had no knowledge of the threat? Obviously thinks he did something bad enough to have to lie...


105 posted on 02/15/2018 7:24:57 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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