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Trump Jr. slams Olympic medalist Adam Rippon
NY Post ^ | February 13, 2018 | 8:48pm | Joe Tacopino

Posted on 02/13/2018 6:01:52 PM PST by conservative98

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To: ek_hornbeck
it's the social acceptance of adultery and the legal recognition of no-fault divorce.

I think easy divorce is a big issue, but adultery is far, far less common than fornication, which is almost universal.

101 posted on 02/14/2018 9:22:50 AM PST by Tax-chick (Happy Lent!)
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To: Jim 0216

Discern between judgment and forgiveness.

The Cross was all Judgment.

Forgiveness occurs with each and every condemned sinner AFTER they exercise belief through faith in Christ upon the call of the Father.

If the person rejects the call of the Father, after tasting the spirit and understanding the Gospel, then there is no other opportunity for salvation.

Forgiveness occurs at initial salvation and whenever we repent and confess our post salvation sins, when we return into fellowship with Him.


102 posted on 02/14/2018 7:25:25 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr
Judgment on Christ brought forgiveness to us. That's what the cross is all about. You make your life much harder than necessary if you think God is requiring you to confess your sins and you are kidding yourself if you think you can even remotely confess all of your sins. We sin in ways we have no idea. Sin is a hopeless case. That's why we needed Jesus to take away our sins and the sin of the whole world (1 John 2:2).

Once you've received Christ you are the righteousness of God in Christ which is a gift. Just as you were a sinner before because of Adam regardless of how much righteousness you did, so now you are righteous because of Christ no matter how much you sin. Otherwise the work of Adam is greater than the work of Jesus Christ the Son of God.

Jesus was condemned and judged for all your sins 2000 years ago. It is done. "It is finished." In the New Covenant, God says, "I remember your sins and iniquities no more." It is done. "It is finished."

Don't add to God's finished work by demanding "repentance and confession." That is a work to gain righteousness but our righteousness never was, is not now, nor never will be a result of our works. Our righteousness is a gift that comes from Jesus' perfect sacrifice and finished work on the cross.

THAT is the gospel of the grace of Christ.

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if you be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace.
Galatians 5:1-4.
103 posted on 02/14/2018 8:11:25 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
1st Jn 1:5-10
(5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
(6) If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
(7) But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
(8) If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. The Gospel is that salvation from condemnation is possible by believing through faith in Christ. This means what Christ provided on the Cross. By believing He was judged for all sin, and now placing all known and unknown sins before God the Father through faith in what Christ provided on the Cross in the judgment of those sins, God the Father is sure and just to forgive those sins.

One cannot approach God through faith in ourselves, but only through faith in Christ and His sacrificial atonement for all sin of all humanity.

104 posted on 02/15/2018 3:15:19 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr
One cannot approach God through faith in ourselves, but only through faith in Christ and His sacrificial atonement for all sin of all humanity.

You're like many preachers who say one thing - YOU must have faith in yourselves to do some kind of work to be saved, in this case confess your sins which is an impossible task and not required under grace - but then turn around say precisely the opposite (above) .

You stop too soon in 1 John with your misapplied quote in chapter 1 which was addressed to the agnostics, not to believers. John begins addressing believers ("My little children") in Chapter 2.

My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation [sacrifice]for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
1 John 2:1-2.

Not one word about confession to the believer if he sins - only a reminder that Jesus has already paid the price for all of our sins.

In the meantime you have utterly failed to addressed the scriptural arguments I have provided for resting in his grace without works

- Blessed is the man to whom God imputes righteousness without works. Romans 4:6.
- The ONLY sin God judges now is that of refusing the free gift of Jesus Christ and his free gift of salvation (John 3:16-18).
- Righteousness is not what we do, it is what Jesus did - righteousness is a gift from God to us by grace (Rom 5:17).
- Once you've received Christ you are the righteousness of God in Christ (2 Cor 5:21). Just as you were a sinner before because of Adam regardless of how much righteousness you did, so now you are righteous because of Christ no matter how much you sin. Otherwise the work of Adam is greater than the work of Jesus Christ the Son of God.
- The New Covenant for the believer states that God will NEVER remember our sins and iniquities EVER again (that’s past, present, and future) (Heb 8:12; 10:17).
- “It is finished” (John 19:30).
- You make your life much harder than necessary if you think God is requiring you to confess your sins and you are kidding yourself if you think you can even remotely confess all of your sins. We sin in ways we have no idea. Sin is a hopeless case. That's why we needed Jesus to take away our sins and the sin of the whole world 2000 years ago (1 John 2:2).
- Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; you are fallen from grace. Galatians 5:1-4.

Need more? Your problem is you have been taught you need more than just trusting Jesus to be saved - that you must continually come back to God with your sins. But God says it is finished - you need only rest in the perfect, finished work of Christ on the cross.

For such a High Priest [Jesus Christ] was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.
Hebrews 7:26-27

For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
Hebrews 9:24-26

For the sacrifices of the law can never make those who approach perfect which they offer continually year by year [ie. continually confessing sins is futile], having only a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things. For then wouldn't they have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. But in those sacrifices [continual confession of sins] there is a reminder of sins every year.
Hebrews 10:1-3

[W]e have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are sanctified.
Hebrews 10:10-14.

[Thus says the Lord] Their sins and their lawless deeds I remember no more.
Hebrews 8:12; 10:17.

How many of your sins did Jesus die for 2000 before you were born? You need to read and re-read Romans 3-8 and Galatians, both of which lay out the details of the gospel of the grace of Christ which makes us free from the self righteous and self effort of works of the law.

105 posted on 02/15/2018 8:11:56 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: conservative98

106 posted on 02/15/2018 11:08:25 AM PST by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: conservative98

Don’t worry. Homos tend to die early either from some weird disease or suicide. So sad...


107 posted on 02/15/2018 11:18:06 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: conservative98

Zing! How will the pansy respond to that?


108 posted on 02/15/2018 11:20:58 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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