Posted on 01/23/2018 2:03:31 PM PST by JP1201
In suburbs just outside the city of Chicago, some police officers are paid fast-food wages; they work part-time patrolling high crime areas, just so they can use their badge to get better paying security jobs.
Many police chiefs say the low-wages and part-time positions are consequences of inadequate funding. That means departments can't pay for ongoing training, can't afford to fire problem officers and don't have the capacity to investigate police shootings.
Experts say it's created a system where there's often no accountability for bad actions, and no real effort to learn from policing mistakes.
(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...
Dolton had 9 murders in 12 yrs. LoL Chicago has that many on a good weekend.
The article reeks of SJW sentiments and complaints of police shootings (everyone of which was justified I will wager.)
NPR might look into what funds go into welfare, medicine, education, and legal help for all those ILLEGAL aliens that their types of progressives love to smooch.
>>if govt would stop funding insane ridiculous pensions then present day services would improve dramatically and we would have more than enough police, teachers, etc...
The government “funds” pensions because it misuses the fund it set aside as part of a worker”s compensation package so it has to play catch-up later to meet obligations. There is no such thing as an “employer-paid benefit”. Do you really think that lowering compensation provides better services?
Head south about 30 or so miles to Will County and you enter the sane world. Great area!
I have relatives in Chicago, though we don’t communicate.
They are like aliens, to me........SPACE aliens..................
“What Happens When Suburban Police Departments Don’t Have Enough Money?”
Same thing as when they have enough money...jack up speed traps, bogus weed arrests, extortion and cursing taxpayers for not approving tax increases...among other innovative things.
I think the poster was saying that if government jobs didn’t promise defined benefits instead of defined contributions, leading to unsustainable pensions far beyond counterparts in the private sector, then a larger share of the budget could go to improving the situation of present day employees.
“These suburbs are Robbins, Markham and those filled with people with third world mentalities.”
Harvey, Ford City...
“Head south about 30 or so miles to Will County and you enter the sane world. Great area! “
Yeah but a lot of that got gerrymandered into the the same horseshit congressional districts...and outnumbered.
People think government employees won’t leave their jobs, but police and fire are two with some turnover. They aren’t leaving the profession, but they are moving to departments that pay better. The departments in this article pay poorly, so they get cops that nobody else will hire. A good example of this near me is DC Metro. Most people don’t stay there for a career because the city is rough and the pay sucks. They get some experience and move to the suburbs.
>>I think the poster was saying that if government jobs didn’t promise defined benefits instead of defined contributions, leading to unsustainable pensions far beyond counterparts in the private sector, then a larger share of the budget could go to improving the situation of present day employees.
Most government jobs are just jobs. But some of them: police, fire, utilities demand a physical commitment that goes beyond the job. My ankles and back are shot from 30 years of working in electric and water utilities. My commitment to the job is 24/7 because when the phone rings, I’m expected to answer and go. If the utility business didn’t pay well with a great pension, I never would have done it after the first 5 years because the deferred compensation is the real reward after a lifetime of answering the phone and going out to keep civilization running.
When you look into an “unsustainable” pension, you’ll find a government that decided to not make contributions in the 90’s because the analysts said the stock market gravy train would go on forever. But, the employees still made their contributions every payday.
Until the states wake up and put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by repealing the 16th & 17th Amendments, towns and cities are going to be short on funding.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
In the meanwhile, patriots need to finish the job that they started in the 2016 elections when they elected Trump president.
More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting, state sovereignty-respecting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.
And until the states repeal the 17th Amendment, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of Alabama's special Senate election, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud and associated MSM scare tactics.
Hacking Democracy - The Hack
State and local government pension shortfalls are something like $5 trillion. I think that was caused by more than just inadequate investments over twenty years ago.
>>State and local government pension shortfalls are something like $5 trillion. I think that was caused by more than just inadequate investments over twenty years ago.
Defined Benefit plans are tied to wages. Wages haven’t gone up that dramatically in the last 20 years either. In fact, they’ve been fairly flat compared to the CPI. But the volatile stock market over those 20 years has been a roller coaster. So, yes, it is due to bad investments and inadequate investments. But, they are also a deferred compensation due to employees for work performed.
A deal was made in a free market: labor for compensation. The governments have an obligation to pay that compensation, or do obligations only apply when the recipient is not a blue collar worker?
I’m not advocating stiffing any retired person, though that is in fact what’s happening. But governments going merrily along their way in the future as they did before is not the answer.
The article mentions Robbins, IL as the place where police officers get low wages.
With 5,300 residents and 35% of the population below the poverty line, what do you expect?
The town has almost 1/2 the population of the 1970 census. If they can’t support themselves, it should be annexed by a nearby city.
NJ has a LOT of cops pulling down 6 figures - and they can retire before 50. Our urban cops are probably paid less than suburban ones, because they are often unqualified tokens, and the people they “protect and serve” pay nothing for the protection and service. The suburbs, on the other hand, have to pay cops to contain the mutants that raid along the frontiers of the urban welfare reservations.
“Many police chiefs say the low-wages and part-time positions are consequences of inadequate funding.”
Bull crap. My mother was on a local Police Pension Board back in the late 1980s. Even then she realized there was no way the promised benefits could be paid out over the long term.
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No money for salaries because taxes are going for pensions, bennies, and welfare costs.
IL is running out of OPM and, unlike Fedzilla, cannot print it.
“When you look into an “unsustainable” pension, you’ll find a government that decided to not make contributions in the 90’s because the analysts said the stock market gravy train would go on forever.”
Maybe where you live, but here in IL the situation is far, far worse. Under the “old” pension system government workers were promised outrageous retirement benefits. Things like 80% of the average of their last 3 years pay, for LIFE, plus medical benefits. Some municipalities even made them assignable to spouses. And these ridiculous plans began after only 20 years of service.
In my town our Police Chief “retired” after 20 years and is getting a $115k a year. He was promptly hired as the Village Manager at a salary of $165,000. He’s 52.
You do the math.
My property tax bill, which we just received, is itemized and shows that fully 2/3 of it goes to pension plans for one taxing body or another. Teachers, firefighters, librarians, Village and County Office drones, you name it and they get it.
It’s insane and it’s all guaranteed under the Illinois State Constitution. They can’t be touched. That’s already been litigated all the way to our State Supreme Court.
It’s not the salaries that are the problem. It’s the “benefits”. Newer hires are under a slightly less insane plan but that doesn’t do any good now. They could literally tax away every single dollar here in IL and it still wouldn’t meet what’s been promised.
So, as usual, NPR is lying by omission.
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