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Hey, Feds, Take Your Ethanol Mandate and Shovel It!
Townhall.com ^ | January 23, 2018 | Tom Purcell

Posted on 01/23/2018 7:10:46 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: I got the rope

What do you mean “not firing where it should”? Yeah, it still has ethanol, but the engines rotate at the same RPMs and burn a little hotter and cleaner. I can’t testify that it’s actually “burning” more of the water content, but, like I said, it’s worked for me for over eight years and it was a racing mechanic who recommended it, so I’m sticking with it. My tractor-drive snow blower is 20 years old and runs better now than it ever has - and it never fails to start.


21 posted on 01/23/2018 9:04:59 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Kaslin

You do realize that these technological decisions are made by people with no technical ability who are paid off by vested interests.


22 posted on 01/23/2018 9:17:50 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: cyclotic

Do marinas in the Peoples Republic of Maryland sell ethanol FRee gas?

They do In Virginia.

$6.00 vs $24.00/gal is worth driving a long way for!


23 posted on 01/23/2018 11:24:42 AM PST by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Kaslin

He is totally correct re: FEDGOV and ethanol, but good luck with rolling the ethanol mandate back.

Archer Daniels Midland and the Corn Growers of America are in total control of that sector of the economy!


24 posted on 01/23/2018 11:26:50 AM PST by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: fella

What is even worse, is, they do not have to suffer the consequences of their actions!

EVAH!

These dumbass “decision makers” have ways and means of causing other people (like us poor, suffering taxpayers) to suffer whilst they ride off in their limousines and Gulfstreams!


25 posted on 01/23/2018 11:31:57 AM PST by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: Kaslin

You can use your favorite search engine to locate one of the many alcohol-free gas stations in the country. Just do a search for “alcohol free gasoline”.


26 posted on 01/23/2018 11:59:08 AM PST by snowtigger (Deplorable, and proud of it!!)
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To: cyclotic

You should (as suggested up-thread) check out the marinas. There are a buncha them within, say 50 mi of Annapolis.

Also look at https://www.pure-gas.org/

Also I was able to get a 5gal can of racing fuel (lead free 100 octane - $60 though) at a local fuel distrubutor’s base operation.


27 posted on 01/23/2018 1:37:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: bigbob

What an ignorant fool. I can’t decide whether his ignorance about science, mechanics, or logic is the most appalling, but only a dumbass would write such drivel and actually put his name on it.

A clue for the clueless: small engines that are not properly maintained will degrade and fail, regardless of the fuel used in them, as they did in dad and grandpa’s era.

What drivel.””

They buy the oil industry line. Small engines, no all engines, failed far more frequently and faster back in the 60s amd 70s, when leaded gas was belching out lead by the tons. Ethanol is the cheapest octane booster on the planet, not to mention there is forage, and high protein feed as a byproduct.


28 posted on 01/23/2018 1:47:10 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: I got the rope

I don’t buy the global warming scam, but corn grows very rapidly and is a hug carbon sink putting carbon back in the soil.


29 posted on 01/23/2018 1:49:52 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Paladin2

What is the octane booster in ethanol free?


30 posted on 01/23/2018 1:55:14 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Octane likely. That’s part of why it’s $12/gal.

The stuff also smelled good. It likely had no shortage of Benzene either. Smelled like the gas of my youth.

Fortunately I located a gas station ~20 mi from home
(and was on an occasionally traveled path for other reasons) that has an “RV” pump of ethanol free gas. It sells for ~$1/gal above the ethanol laced gas.

There was no way I was going to put ethanol in a new lawn mower.


31 posted on 01/23/2018 2:01:40 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

If you run the tank dry and do not store gas in the tank, there will be no problem’’

Operator error


32 posted on 01/23/2018 2:04:17 PM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Corn also requires tons of petrol based fertilizer and farm equipment Diesel. Not to speak of energy spent processing and transporting the ethanol.


33 posted on 01/23/2018 2:05:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Benzene is a proven carcinogen. Breath deeply. Do you drink ethanol?

I’ve been running the same lawn mowers, a small push mower, and a zero turn, since 2003. My ATV, a Honda foreman is a 1998 with 13,500 hard miles using same ethanol containing gas. None, have ever had an engine repair. All used on the farm and serviced by me. I don’t drain the tanks but I do start them about once a month in winter.


34 posted on 01/23/2018 2:48:33 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Taxman

I only use it in my blower and trimmer. Lawnmower seems OK.


35 posted on 01/23/2018 2:58:34 PM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Ethanol is apparently highly hygroscopic. It has to be mixed with pipeline nearly “finished” gasoline at the distribution point.

For that reason alone I deeply dislike it.

Though ethanol is not nearly the toxic solvent that methanol is, it is just not energy efficient as an ICE fuel.

I’m sure that small engine manufacturers have addressed their gaskets/seals/valve and ring materials in later years.
For ojnly a few gallons/year, I see no need to do anything but buy non-alcoholic gas for those machines. I don’t drain, but top off the tank for storage.

I find my snow shovel starts up fine every time, no matter the temperature. And I don’t have to start up a vehicle to go the gym.


36 posted on 01/23/2018 3:09:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: snowtigger

Most of the Ethanol free zones are in corn country.
A sin.
Look at Texas.


37 posted on 01/23/2018 3:51:58 PM PST by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: Paladin2

What additives would you suggest to replace it. It is the cheapest octane booster on the planet and rapidly renewable plus a feed and fiber source.


38 posted on 01/23/2018 7:07:41 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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