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A Different Perspective on DACA
American Thinker.com ^ | January 232, 2018 | Bill Taylor

Posted on 01/22/2018 12:54:21 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Pietro

The GOP also nodded and winked. They were the houses that “hired Rosa.” The parties weren’t more than pro forma opponents. Till Donald. If we compare Donald to hypothetical “conservative” perfection, that’s a guarantee we get neither.

Politics is the art of the possible.


41 posted on 01/22/2018 1:29:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Leep

After a few places like TX and CA, MA has more illegals than any state in the union.


42 posted on 01/22/2018 1:30:10 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You are very short-sighted. Mass immigration converted California from Reagan Country into what it is today. And it happened very quickly once it started.

Every dreamer will be able to sponsor his relatives. Legally or illegally. Everyone across the globe gets it when sappy, soft-headed Americans start handing out free passes into the country.


43 posted on 01/22/2018 1:30:46 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: rollo tomasi

So compare yourself to the Commandments. How are you doing?

Stealing is one of the smaller evils.


44 posted on 01/22/2018 1:31:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Pelham

How do you come up with that out of thin air?


45 posted on 01/22/2018 1:32:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Kaslin

We gave the daca children a gift - and the ingrates decided we should be forced to continue giving them gifts for the rest of their lives.

There’s something wrong with that... something fundamentally unfair.

If daca children took the gift of living under freedom - and went home to their corrupt hellholes they could work to make their home countries better. Freer. Better for themselves and their children and their countrymen and their parents and relatives. Take our gift and share it with their countrymen.

A ‘thank you’ might be in order from these people... but democrats have told them their ‘entitled’ and ‘victims’ so we can’t expect them to act in a civilized way. Which is too bad because it’s a nice part of our culture.


46 posted on 01/22/2018 1:33:12 PM PST by GOPJ ( How dare Democrats put the country at risk for the sake of a bunch of illegals. Treason.)
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To: Kaslin; Liz

We gave the daca children a gift - and the ingrates decided we should be forced to continue giving them gifts for the rest of their lives.

There’s something wrong with that... something fundamentally unfair.

If daca children took the gift of living under freedom - and went home to their corrupt hellholes they could work to make their home countries better. Freer. Better for themselves and their children and their countrymen and their parents and relatives. Take our gift and share it with their countrymen.

A ‘thank you’ might be in order from these people... but democrats have told them their ‘entitled’ and ‘victims’ so we can’t expect them to act in a civilized way. Which is too bad because it’s a nice part of our culture.


47 posted on 01/22/2018 1:33:44 PM PST by GOPJ ( How dare Democrats put the country at risk for the sake of a bunch of illegals. Treason.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I long for the speech that President Trump gives - SOTU? - wherein he says words to the effect:

“If you are illegally in the USA, you must leave!

If you don’t leave, when we find you (and WE WILL FIND YOU!), you will be deported!

America is a nation of laws; you have violated our law, therefore you must leave!”


48 posted on 01/22/2018 1:33:55 PM PST by Taxman (Replace the income tax with the FAIRtax and abolish the IRS!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Pretty good,I don't believe in cheap Grace. I believe in humility and repentance, unlike yourself. Ever had your identity stolen? 'Golden rule' is absent with illegals by default. Hardly a small sin.
49 posted on 01/22/2018 1:36:48 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Kaslin

Uh oh, somebody might have to check their privilege. Can’t have that. Too much mileage to be gained from playing the victim card.


50 posted on 01/22/2018 1:37:44 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)
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To: GOPJ

Who’s the “we.” It wasn’t anything legal. If Congress passes it now it is legal.

Hey some folks are so exercised about stealing. Well who stole. It’s looking uncommonly like all.


51 posted on 01/22/2018 1:37:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From having lived in California since 1966. What’s your expertise on how this state radically changed?


52 posted on 01/22/2018 1:40:33 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Kaslin
I have been making a similar argument here at Free Republic for more than ten years...

Economically, there is nothing going on in the USA, or Switzerland, or Hong Kong that cannot be replicated in every other country in the world.

Another related topic...

Few people realize that the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 allows an unlimited number of foreign med school graduates to apply for USA Green Cards (Legal Permanent Resident).

I don't know how many foreign doctors have accepted this open invitation, but it is surely in the hundreds of thousands (e.g., how many doctors in your HMO speak American English without an accent?).

I have often wondered how many citizens of the Third World have suffered completely unnecessary pain, disfigurement, disability, or death because their own countrymen are practicing medicine in the USA, probably for Medicaid, and quite possibly treating immigrants from their home country.

53 posted on 01/22/2018 1:41:19 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: rollo tomasi

Pretty good?

How would you view about being kidnaped into a place that is saying nothing but it hates you?

Check out the love commandments. You aren’t. Maybe not even the false witness one in that the IRS has ITINs. Not every working DACA is a SSN stealer. And others “steal” SSNs that belonged to the dead.


54 posted on 01/22/2018 1:42:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Kaslin

I understand that children have no choice but to go with their parents. But once they are eighteen, they have a choice to make. They can continue the crime taught to them by their parents, or they can make an effort to correct.


55 posted on 01/22/2018 1:43:08 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Kaslin

bump for later


56 posted on 01/22/2018 1:43:34 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Abortion, no-fault divorce, and homosexual marriage are legal, do you encourage/celebrate/Biblically justify the procedures/acts?

Is identity theft legal? How about hiring illegals and not putting them on the "books"? Sanctuary cities/now States legal in the face of Federal law? Heck, is DACA even legal since the Supreme Court was split and deferred to a lower court ruling stating the EO was illegal.
57 posted on 01/22/2018 1:47:34 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Kaslin

Fun With Figures
“There are only 800,000 Dreamers.”
But the number of DACAns is closer to 4 million.
(And that’s not counting their familia and amigos.)

“There are about 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US.”
But if you quadruple that figure, you’re close to the actual figure of 30-40 million illegal aliens in the US.

Close approximations: the cost of the wall, 18 billion; the annual cost of illegals, 8 or 9 times that figure, or about 140 billion.
So the next time you hear, “A wall and border security is are too much money!” or one of the other embellishments and euphemisms the left loves to use, stick your oar in: “Sorry to confuse you with facts, but ...”


58 posted on 01/22/2018 1:47:42 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all white armed conservatives)
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To: Pelham

I’ve lived in California. Notice the past tense of the verb.


59 posted on 01/22/2018 1:50:52 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I would be self-aware, not bitch about amnesty, don't steal another person's identity, and show some humility.

"Love commandments" would appeal to those patiently waiting in line, not those who skipped the line/were smuggled in. Families can go back together then wait in line.

Also the EO was ruled illegal, plenty of "nightmares" had to steal identities/be used as cannon fodder for political means.
60 posted on 01/22/2018 1:54:04 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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