[Mark17]

We should really piss off Turkey and formally acknowledge the Kurds and Kurdish Independence

I was in the sh!t hole of a country in 1982. I thought it was a sh!t hole then I still do, but we should get the troops out of of turkey first.

[bagster]

Theodore Roosevelt: You know as well as I do that we can't have Arab desperadoes running around kidnapping American citizens. If I had my way, I'd go in there with a couple of Winchesters, a batallion of Marines - but, I can't do that, can I?

John Hay: No.

Theodore Roosevelt: Has this Raspuli-?

John Hay: Raisuli.

Theodore Roosevelt: Raspuli, Raisuli, whatever - has he made any terms?

John Hay: No.

Theodore Roosevelt: Good - that gives us an excuse!

[GreyHoundSailor]

It was still a shlthole when I left in 2009.