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Wishes We Had More Immigrants From Norway. Turns Out We Once Did
NPR ^ | January 12, 2018 | Nurith Aizenman

Posted on 01/16/2018 8:04:17 AM PST by artichokegrower

In the Thursday meeting in which President Trump complained about "having all these people from shithole countries come here" — and singled out Haiti, El Salvador and Africa as examples — he also added that, "we should have more people from Norway."

In fact there was a time when we did.

From 1870 to 1910 a quarter of Norway's working-age population emigrated, mostly to the United States. You read that right — one-fourth of its workers left the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


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To: artichokegrower; ExTexasRedhead
Senator Pat Lahey just grilled the DHS Chief (who is quite attractive if I may be so bold) on television. She said that the President believes that people who are educated and with skills should be the immigrants we seek.

He paused for a long while, and then (with disgust in his voice) said: “You mean White people!”

Well there you have it people. According to Democrats, brown and black people have no education or skills.

21 posted on 01/16/2018 8:21:51 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: artichokegrower; Bryanw92; bboop; ClearCase_guy; Regulator

Today’s Norway, on the other hand, appears on most of the “top 5/top 10” best countries in the world to be an atheist.

Modern Scandinavian countries - always pleasantly referred to as role models by the likes of Bernie Sanders and ilk, can boast of:

* socialist medicine
* euthanasia on demand (and grotesquely high suicide rates in general)
* Eugenic eradication of Down Syndrome and other disabilities among babies through abortion (especially Iceland which is not exactly Scandinavia but in the neighborhood)
* New-age ecology movements and global warming dogma have replaced European Christian traditions.

Ironically if you visit Europe, it is in fact immigrants from Africa and the Carribbean keeping the old beautiful churches alive.

And most people directly from those places have a work ethic and motivation which preclude them from being on Welfare. Your cab driver will likely be a Ghanaian or from some place similar for example.

And it is the church leaders from those countries who hold our Marxist Pope in Rome and weak Archbishop of Canterbury in London true to the conservative doctrines of Christianity with regard to marriage, gender, pro-life, et al. in the face of the liberalizing trends touted in the West.

Not saying we need more immigration, just that I won’t fall for the “look at Scandinavia as a model” trick.

“Majority of Norweigians do not believe in God for first time in history”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norwegians-believe-in-god-majority-do-not-for-first-time-ever-a6943706.html


22 posted on 01/16/2018 8:23:39 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: bboop

More or less ditto—I had four great grandparents who settled in Oakland California—sailors, fisherman, and longshoremen.


23 posted on 01/16/2018 8:23:51 AM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: bboop

My grandfather too but Port Angeles not Seattle.


24 posted on 01/16/2018 8:26:15 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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To: artichokegrower

We need a 20 year moratorium on all immigration. From everywhere.


25 posted on 01/16/2018 8:27:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: artichokegrower

26 posted on 01/16/2018 8:29:57 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: artichokegrower

In other words, they shared a lot in common with many of today’s immigrants from ... El Salvador, Haiti and Africa.


The article leaves out that most of them were committed Christians, as well.

The left emphasizes economics over all. But economics follows culture and rule of law.


27 posted on 01/16/2018 8:30:21 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: artichokegrower

Turns out, the Norwegians worked their asses off in the freezing cold in the frozen tundra of places like Minnesota and North Dakota for decades and made a decent life for themselves. Only a low general IQ in an ethnic population would lead them to import the exact cause of their future destruction. Why would Blacks want low-wage competition? Insanity.


28 posted on 01/16/2018 8:32:30 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth)
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To: artichokegrower

Nordic people got to North America centuries before Columbus did.


29 posted on 01/16/2018 8:33:36 AM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: artichokegrower

except their IQ level was higher as well. big difference nobody wants to discuss.
people coming from areas a century ago had similar culture as western society, and were here for opportunity and more freedom not a welfare state.


30 posted on 01/16/2018 8:36:34 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: artichokegrower

Two thoughts here: first, what would NPR’s folk hero Garrison Keillor have done for comic material without the “Norwegian farmers” he relied on as foils for his stories of “Lake Wobegon” back in the 80s when he was actually entertaining?

Second, overall Scandinavian immigration affected multiple parts of the US, as other FReepers have already noted. The central KS town of Lindsborg was settled by Swedish immigrants and that fact is still celebrated today. Further north, the Norwegians liked the agricultural promise of north-central KS and you can still hear some who speak like they live in central Minnesota. The names on mailboxes and cemetery headstones also reveal much about immigration patterns.


31 posted on 01/16/2018 8:43:01 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: artichokegrower; KC_Lion; Pelham

My family was from Norway. I know very little about them other than that they came over before World War One.


32 posted on 01/16/2018 8:44:53 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: artichokegrower

The Northmen came about our land
A Christless chivalry:
Who knew not of the arch or pen,
Great, beautiful half-witted men
From the sunrise and the sea.

Misshapen ships stood on the deep
Full of strange gold and fire,
And hairy men, as huge as sin
With horned heads, came wading in
Through the long, low sea-mire.

GK Chesterton, The Ballad of the White Horse


33 posted on 01/16/2018 8:48:18 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Regulator

Norway keeps its socialism afloat on North Sea oil. Plus a lot of Norwegian offshore companies that pay no taxes. Without that they would be down to fishing and farming.


34 posted on 01/16/2018 8:49:51 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: blueunicorn6
We are a poor but extremely good looking family.

LOL...humble brag much?
35 posted on 01/16/2018 8:54:03 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: artichokegrower
In the Thursday meeting in which President Trump complained about "having all these people from shithole countries come here"

Why is this being reported as a fact when it is under contention?

The LSM loves using the word "allegedly" when obummer's sons are involved.

36 posted on 01/16/2018 8:57:13 AM PST by pfflier
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To: artichokegrower

Democrats are RACISTS for immigrating only from black brown countries.


37 posted on 01/16/2018 9:03:32 AM PST by TheNext
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To: Oldexpat
Without that they would be down to fishing and farming.

Nothing wrong with that, if it feeds your people.

38 posted on 01/16/2018 9:09:16 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SkyPilot; vette6387; unkus; mazda77

Liberal RATs and I do mean rats are imploding. Behold treasonous, corrupt, amoral, lying, gutless RATs self-destructing.


39 posted on 01/16/2018 9:14:27 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Bryanw92

I am from Minnesoda.
I am Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Irish and French.
I apologize for the French. I think they got the Irish descendant drunk and took advantage.
My grandmother spoke Finnish as she was born there but also spoke perfect English as she lived in Minnesoda.


40 posted on 01/16/2018 9:15:33 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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