Posted on 01/14/2018 6:24:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Email Address SUBMIT President Trump defended himself from claims that he is a racist after reportedly saying Haiti and some African nations are “shithole countries” last week.
“No. I’m not a racist. I’m the least racist person you will ever interview,” Trump said Sunday before eating dinner with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy at Mar-a-Lago, his club in Florida.
The subject of Trump’s views on race — specifically whether he is racist against black and brown people — have been called into question this week after his reported comments during an Oval Office meeting on immigration.
Trump also reportedly repeatedly questioned an intelligence officer of Korean descent about where she was from, not accepting New York or Manhattan for an answer, until she said her parents were from South Korea. He then reportedly asked another staffer why the “pretty Korean lady” wasn’t working on North Korea.
Those statements come months after Trump said there were good people on both sides of the violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the summer, one of which included the KKK and neo-Nazis.
Trump was dining with McCarthy to talk about a busy week in Congress, which must reach a spending deal by Jan. 19 or the government will run out of money and shut down.
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And importantly, during the time of Irish immigration, America had a distinct and critical need for labor. Our population could not take full advantage of the continent’s resources, or even fully populate our land mass. We needed people to come here. Conditions today are rather dramatically different - and we have no need whatsoever to import masses of people...from anywhere. If people can, on an individual basis, be an advantage, an asset to the nation, that’s one things. To import masses for the very specific purpose of changing the demographic makeup of the country - for no reason but political advantage to the far left and those who wish to turn the country into a one-party dictatorship is another entirely.
All men are created equal.
Good that was my intention.
I do not agree that Trump would have said anything racist about Dr. Carson.
He was polite to Carson at that event. I’m sorry you don’t seem to see that.
Trump can be sharp and cutting but he is also respectful of those who deserve respect. I supported him from day one but he as exceeded my expectations tremendously.
The standard for immigrants needs to be what they can do for this country, not what this country can do for them.
Perhaps, but there existence on this planet and their cultural experiences change them very quickly. Just because they are created equal doesn’t mean they stay tat way, nor does it mean that a nation has any responsibility whatsoever to import them from the open sewer that THEY have made of their own country.
America does not NEED mass immigration, those days passed by the time of World War 2. Since America has no need of these populations. In fact, it just takes a drive through just about anywhere in Southern California - even Orange County or Gaslight in San Diego - to see what the outcome is when you mass import people without any merit check from Third World countries. Hepatitis and Mass Tent Encampments - it’s the big new thing in So Cal.
America can be picky and choosy - and must be if the culture is to be preserved. It does not need demographic upheaval, there is no condition whatsoever that requires it to take such a risk, as California is proving to anyone who bothers to look.
Bill Clinton said what about obama again?
Clinton is quoted as telling Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), “A few years ago, this guy (Obama) would be getting us coffee.”
Trump repeating Clintons line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXeAYfxVLY
Clintons mentor was racist William Fulbright.
You social justice warriors sure have no problem sticking your sticky fingers in taxpayers pockets to the tune of trillions of dollars in debt to fund these DACCA children. You and yours have NO right to require me and mine to pay for these welfare cases. Actually, what you are in favor of, is human trafficking, regardless of the intentions of the bodies being shipped into our country. Some ‘freedom’ you claim to champion.
I believe that commandment, ‘thou shalt not steal’ is still in effect...
Strange that you consider yourself ‘normal’, but yet you take the word of a lying Dicky Durbin that President Trump used that particular verbiage ... So you are a Dicky Durbin Republican...
Actually you completely missed what was going on.
Trump showed great respect for Carson that night when he waited with him while the others went on stage.
It shows Trump is a class act, and a good man.
You must have seen or heard something from the small minded media. Lots of low energy thinkers in the media speaking dumb ideas (some of the dimmest were see-eye-aye interns), a man’s liable to start believing them if he’s not careful.
well, bye.
Thanks, Jim.
Sadly, that is not true at all. There are multiple high security penitentiaries within a couple hours from here. I can guarantee you that most of the inmates cannot handle freedom responsibly, and that no matter what you do (within current legal, moral / ethical, and technical bounds), there is NOTHING that will return most of these people to civil society as productive citizens who can stay out of trouble. They have been so twisted in their formative years, or are just plain incurably mentally ill, that about the best that can be hoped for is that when they get out (assuming they do) either they get caught quickly when they commit some new crime, or maybe they are too aged / no longer physically able to do much harm. SOME may "get religion" and stick with it, and a fewer number may be able to otherwise rehabilitate, but daunting numbers never really do. This is statistical fact.
When it comes to countries, we again have a dynamic where the education system, culture, and formative years are key. You mention your own ancestry, but, it is still a background and culture that assimilates fairly easily (in relative terms) into "American" culture. Not all Americans were "accepting" of many immigrants in the past, of course, but, by and large, Irish-American, Italian-American, German-American, etc. immigrants were able to "Americanize" enough that with time they were generally accepted. Some (Chinese Americans, for example) assimilated more slowly, but gradually earned acceptance through hard work and (generally) staying out of trouble.)
In the international realm, what we see is that it generally takes a lot of "background" for freedom to work. That and in some cases a bit of "luck" in who comes to power when a country goes from a despotic, enslaved, or otherwise "controlled" past, to Western style freedom. In a humbling number of cases (countries), freedom lead to great misery and evil. Neither the people nor their leaders were ready for "freedom".
Or, sorry, do trumpist not conform to ‘all men are created equal’ anymore?
This is a very misunderstood phrase. I would refer you to the Federalist papers for study in depth. For one thing, it refers to citizens of a country - our founders never intended that, say, Italians should have a say in US affairs, or equal opportunity here to that of US citizens. But, briefly, it is true in the sense that the Founders thought each subject of a country should have an equal shot at proving their worth, and (maybe this is just my opinion) that any human (excepting criminals, I suppose) deserved a certain level of dignity and fair treatment. It does NOT mean that, for example, a businessman has to flip a coin when selecting a more qualified job applicant over a less qualified applicant "to make it fair". It comes nowhere near the subject of who might be allowed to enter the country -- that was addressed later.
More to follow, and please keep the link in my next post in mind. :-)
You won’t be seeing him no more.
The point of that graph is that in the past the US has always and only allowed immigration that benefitted the country in some way or ways. Other posters have already addressed this. Suffice it to say that we no longer need poor farmers, or, for that matter, to be blunt, cannon fodder or future cannon fodder. When the trend became a problem, such as in the 1930’s, we shut it down.
If we get in a long drawn out war with China, that might change. But technology and adequate resources are probably a better path, should it come to that. Plus, I’d like to think we are past the point of importing huge masses of people as cannon fodder. A limited number, to earn citizenship by military service, I am fine with.
You, though, seem to be saying that anyone in the world who wants to come here for opportunity should be allowed to. This is nonsense. The plain fact of the matter is, we can’t handle the immigrants we have here now, the illegals in particular. (I read somewhere we have 1/5 of the refugees and immigrants in the world, here in the US, already. I am still looking for confirmation of that, admittedly. But, “confirmation” really doesn’t matter.) Look at the mess CA is in, especially the population centers. Are you really advocating for 10x that, or worse? That is exactly what we will get if we let every “good” person who wants to come here, come here.
The truth is, this country, and the world, are far different than they once were. What has not changed is that our immigration policy should be tailored / corrected to benefit our country, as it always has been.
I say this as a person whose wife is a “3rd world” immigrant. We have MANY immigrant friends, and even she sees it.
Well, this was meant for the guy with the pagan forum name, before I noticed he had been stricken down from above. I can’t help but post anyway, seeing as how he’ll probably read it anyway, from his new home in lurker land:
Remember—when the most basic foundation of an ideology is the practice of claiming to care about others for appearances’ sake, it’s inevitable that the leadership positions will become saturated with the lowest form of criminals.
As a result, the democrat party is run by murderers, drug traffickers, terrorists and pedophiles. (With the republicans not far behind these days, having more recently abandoned the foundations of their own party for that of the democrats.)
Meanwhile, democrat voters (except those who have the wisdom to see Trump for who he really is) are conditioned to look only at appearances. This way, they’re unable to see the filth and corruption that has engulfed their party and plunged it into the depths of the rottenest, stinkinest hole of a swamp pit that’s ever been seen this side of hell.
Not to mention the fact that the deep state doesn’t care about immigrants—what they care about is the complete destruction and death of the United States. By allowing the invasion of millions of anti-American agents.
What a joke. His tv show had more black contestants than any other (except maybe the rap contests) tv competition. And they won a lot too. There was zero sign of trump ever being racist.
You aren’t racist not to want any strangers in your home. We don’t want people who shouldn’t be here in our country. Not killing us, not taking our jobs. And I’m all for legal immigration and I love our fellow Americans blindly as our compatriots.
Calling people you don’t agree with racist is getting so boring.
Yeah, looks that way.
But, that’s almost too bad. This discussion (myself aside) has drawn out some important points. At my wife’s church (she is Catholic) we get bombarded every Sunday in the prayers about how we are supposed to be welcoming to all the immigrants (illegals included), refugees, etc. It creeps into the sermons sometimes.
Good Lord - I am a softie, and generous, especially with my time, since I’m not loaded with $$, to others. Yet we’ve helped out ($$) some of my wife’s poorer relatives, on occasion, and right now my wife is preparing a huge box (is going to cast a chunk to ship!) of goodies to send over. I think the character “Delenn’s” actions in the B5 episode “Confessions and Lamentations” (possibly sacrificing her own life for others “not her kind”) are awe inspiring (even if fictional).
That doesn’t mean I’m a damn fool about my country’s future!!
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