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Government regulations cost you, each and every day
AgAlert ^ | December 20, 2017 | John Youngberg

Posted on 12/25/2017 11:05:48 AM PST by artichokegrower

The other day, when I got ready to mow the lawn, I got out the old gas can I had inherited from my dad. It was a battered old tin can with a rubber spout and a vent hole on the opposite side. It worked perfectly for many decades, but I noticed that it was leaking around the seam on the bottom.

A trip to the local hardware store brought me a new, EPA-approved PFC (portable fluid container), also known as a gas can with a low-vapor pour spout. I quickly learned that you need three hands to operate today's gas can. You spill more gas than you get in the tank.

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The hardware store sells a water can that has a durable spout with the vent on the opposite side that pours perfectly. Of course, I would never use that for gasoline.


Don't let the secret out or they will outlaw water cans.

1 posted on 12/25/2017 11:05:48 AM PST by artichokegrower
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I bought one of those 3 or more hands/arms required “safety” gas cans a couple of years ago. Last year I stopped in at an “Army surplus” store and found a 20 liter German Army gas can with a single nozzle that I bought and threw out the 3-handed plastic cans.


2 posted on 12/25/2017 11:13:18 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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It worked perfectly for many decades, but I noticed that it was leaking around the seam on the bottom.

You could probably fix that vintage piece, by pouring a durable coating inside to stop the leaks. I've used such a coating (made for that purpose) to reline a vintage vehicle gas tank that I had cleaned at a radiator shop. That was maybe 15 years ago, before crazy EPA rules.

3 posted on 12/25/2017 11:14:00 AM PST by roadcat
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To: artichokegrower

Problem is a gas station won’t fill it.

Solution is to buy a funnel, take the cap off entirely and pour. It’s a great feeling of freedom after having used a couple of the described monstrosities.. I don’t need a funnel for my John Deere. They saw the problem and made a very wide fill.


4 posted on 12/25/2017 11:18:03 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: GreyFriar

Replacement spouts sold on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Spout-Deluxe-Hi-Flo-Extension/dp/B00YP3YTXM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1514229440&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=water+can+spouts&psc=1

A water can spout. I would never use it on a gas can. Wink wink


5 posted on 12/25/2017 11:18:22 AM PST by artichokegrower
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It ain’t just the gas can if you want to mow the lawn ...The new government approved carbs on the mower won’t work out of the box. There is no governer no mix screw no idle set. The carb rebuilder will tell you the rebuild may work for a short while. On a brand new mower I took off the airfilter, taped over half the intake, replaced the filter and have been using it this way for two years. It is starting to wobble now. I haven’t bothered to change the oil because I inteND to just let it size up.


6 posted on 12/25/2017 11:18:27 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: artichokegrower
When push mowers were required to have bar one had to hold to keep the motor running, some people circumvented that by tying something around the bar.

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In the 50s, we had a motorized push mower. [It didn't have a safety-shut-off.] Sometimes we would turn it loose when it was running. It would chase us. We would chase it. Kids! Had it ever caught us, at most we might have lost a toe or three, but as we near the 70-year-age group, we still have all of our toes.


7 posted on 12/25/2017 11:21:40 AM PST by TomGuy
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Problem is a gas station won’t fill it.

In Texas we know how to pump our own gas.

8 posted on 12/25/2017 11:31:39 AM PST by PAR35
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We live on a farm some distance from the nearest gas station. But we need gas for our Gator, lawn mower, roto-tiller, chipper-shredder, chain saw and generator.

So we have 8-5 gal. cans we keep in the barn to keep from having to make the long trip to the gas station so often.

All of the spouts have been replaced with ones I buy online. They are flexible, and work just fine.

Those three-handed spouts you speak of, ended up spilling more gas than the "damage" the vapors would have caused. I threw them all out.

Some government worker in the EPA who never mowed a lawn in their life and never used a gas can with the spouts they mandate for the public is behind this.

I've yet to meet someone here locally in rural Florida who uses those original spouts that come with the cans.

9 posted on 12/25/2017 11:33:36 AM PST by HotHunt
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The EPA-approved PFC (portable fluid container)is extremely dangerous when fueling a boat. The gas leaks out and goes down into the bilge.


10 posted on 12/25/2017 12:03:27 PM PST by artichokegrower
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We recently bought a can with a great spout. Remove the twist off cap, put the spout into the tank and a little plastic hook catches the rim of the tank, pushing open a rubber gasketed poppet valve and letting the gas flow freely.

Easy peasy!

I hope the inventor makes a million!


11 posted on 12/25/2017 12:37:47 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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"....EPA-approved PFC (portable fluid container)...."

That right there is window into what is wrong with anything the government is involved with.

First, they change the name to some bureaucratic PC-neutral name that's a mile long. We call these "gas cans" in the real world.

Second, whatever it is, you are guaranteed the "government approved" version will always be worse than the original they are "fixing" and won't function worth a hill of beans in the real world. Only in the warped minds of these inept government liberals.

And finally, Merry Christmas! :-)

12 posted on 12/25/2017 12:39:29 PM PST by HotHunt
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“Problem is a gas station won’t fill it.”

You still have station attendants where you live? I haven’t seen one of those guys here in California since the Arab Oil Embargo of 1972. Yeah, here there are signs next to our pumps about the CA Gas Container Law, but no one ever comes out of the kiosk to see what you are filling.


13 posted on 12/25/2017 1:11:27 PM PST by vette6387
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Yes they do, in a huge way. People just don’t realize it.


14 posted on 12/25/2017 1:11:42 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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When there’s an overabundance of employees seeking meaning at a place like the EPA, this is the result, along with two-flush toilets, CFL bulbs, CAFE ‘standards’, locked up land and crap AC without Freon.


15 posted on 12/25/2017 2:04:59 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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“but I noticed that it was leaking around the seam on the bottom”.

roadcat replied
You could probably fix that vintage piece, by pouring a durable coating inside to stop the leaks. I’ve used such a coating (made for that purpose) to reline a vintage vehicle gas tank that I had cleaned at a radiator shop.

What is the name of the stuff you used ?


16 posted on 12/25/2017 2:36:45 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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What is the name of the stuff you used ?

I can't remember stuff from 15 years ago, let alone last week. Bought it at an auto parts store. I had my vintage gas tank cleaned by a radiator shop, where they dunked it in a boiling acid solution for several days to get rid of gummied old gasoline. That removed everything down to bare metal. To prevent rust, you slosh the durable coating around inside the gas tank to seal the metal and prevent rust. You should be able to find something similar by searching online, just be sure it is impervious to gasoline.

17 posted on 12/25/2017 3:19:53 PM PST by roadcat
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To: mosesdapoet

Google “coating inside gas tank” for many solutions. There are some at Amazon online such as this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Kote-Quart-Sealer-Diesel/dp/B009X0JOSM


18 posted on 12/25/2017 3:22:27 PM PST by roadcat
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Re tank coatings;
Thanks for replys


19 posted on 12/25/2017 3:57:24 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: vette6387; PAR35

I forgot. Oregon is the last state Where you can’t pump your own. The law has recently changed for rural area after hours we can pump our own if there are no 24hr gas stations in the area.

However, I can get non-ethanol


20 posted on 12/25/2017 4:21:55 PM PST by Cold Heart
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