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What the Heck Happened in Alabama?
American Thinker.com ^ | December 15, 2017 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 12/15/2017 10:03:16 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: butterdezillion

>>>ou presume that the numbers we have are accurate. What if they aren’t accurate? How would you know?

You wouldn’t. The only way to determine that would be through a recount. The state has established thresholds at which recounts should take place. Additionally, a candidate can choose to pay for a recount if outside the state’s threshold.


221 posted on 12/15/2017 3:32:31 PM PST by oincobx
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To: Sam Gamgee

“Then we would have gotten another swamp creature.”

We would have gotten someone who votes 100% with Trump.


222 posted on 12/15/2017 3:49:05 PM PST by Armscor38
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To: Armscor38

given the amount of voter fraud when both parties are fighting it out, imagine how much more fraud there would be when both parties are fighting to get Dem Jones elected in this particular case.


223 posted on 12/15/2017 4:17:51 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Poison Pill

Where are you getting 670,000 votes? This election was swung by about 21,000 votes - and that’s not yet counting the military absentee ballots. How many fraudulent votes can there be? Well.... Jill Stein gave up on finding it out when she realized they were finding a LOT of fraudulent votes that all seemed to go for Hillary...

We have screenshots of Reddit asking out-of-state dems to go to AL and vote. We have video of an elated out-of-stater saying they had come from all over the country to vote for Jones and had gotten him elected.

The democrat counties reported after a long delay and a former official from that area has said there is always fraud there.

According to https://bigleaguepolitics.com/evidence-voter-fraud-alabama-mobile-county-results-come-late/ , glitches were reported in Madison and Jefferson Counties, with a lot of people having to file provisional ballots which I believe have not been counted. DHS had warned about “Russian” (ha!) hacking attempts on AL’s voting database, saying that the big danger is that somebody could hack the system and disqualify voters. If that was the case, those people would file provisional ballots, as happened in Madison, and Jones beat Moore by about 20,000 votes in Madison County.


224 posted on 12/15/2017 4:20:56 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Kaslin

... or the media brow beat republicans into stating home.
650,000 to 700,000 Republican voters stayed home????


225 posted on 12/15/2017 4:30:13 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: butterdezillion
Where are you getting 670,000 votes?

1,318,255 people in Alabama voted Republican in 2016.

649,240 people in Alabama voted for Roy Moore in 2017.

1,318,255 - 649,240 = 669,015.

Of 1,318,255 available voters, Roy Moore could only convince 649,240 to vote for him.

Wow.

226 posted on 12/15/2017 5:17:50 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Kaslin; All
"Yes, I smell the foul stench of Democrat voter fraud in the Alabama senate race."

Did the deep state possibly scrape up dirt on Judge Moore before the primary election, and then cheat for him to win the primary without his knowledge, subsequently using allegations to keep conservatives home for special election while cheating for his opponent?

Deep state possibly had comparable plan when McCain / Romney ran against Obama, McCain / Romney arguably volunteering to lose their respective races against Obama.

In fact, I agree with Tammy Bruce that deep state is probably desperate enough to get rid of Pres. Trump to work with media to try to flip the Senate to Democratic control in the 2018 elections so that Congress can continue to ignore the will of citizen voters by killing Trump's vision for MAGA.

Patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of state sovereignty-respecting, Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to D.C. on election day.

And until the ill-conceived 17th Amendment is repealed, patriot candidates need to win primaries and elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud and associated MSM scare tactics.

227 posted on 12/15/2017 7:51:00 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: oincobx

Seems very reasonable to retain everything, all electronic events and all hard copies.


228 posted on 12/15/2017 8:03:20 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Kaslin

bump


229 posted on 12/15/2017 8:09:01 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: Poison Pill

You made it sound as if 670,000 votes had to be wrong in order for there to be election fraud. Not so.

How many votes have you gotten when you’ve had the democrat party complete with all the Soros money you could want, the GOPee party complete with all the threat power over future campaign funding, the media’s power to tell a lie and get it around the world twice before the truth can get its shoes tied, the likes of Gloria Allred and all the trash she can buy with a Clinton $100 bill in a trailer park, and all the powers of Hell against you?

Moore isn’t perfect. Maybe isn’t even good. But he’s not safe in his luxury box criticizing the sweat beads on the wrestler battling it out in the ring.

If you’ve never had the hounds of Hell against you, you don’t know diddly.


230 posted on 12/15/2017 9:42:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Are you happy that the dimocrats stole the vote through fraud?


231 posted on 12/15/2017 9:49:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Kaslin; butterdezillion; bitt

Kaslin, butterdezillion,

Many thanks for finding those links !

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3613939/posts?page=209#209

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3613939/posts?page=212#212

Ping to vids where people said they came from outside Alabama to vote.


232 posted on 12/15/2017 11:22:02 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: butterdezillion
How many votes have you gotten when you’ve had the democrat party complete with all the Soros money you could want,

Hillary outspent Trump by something like 2:1. And that was just the money that got reported. People didn't like what Moore was selling. That's all this was.

233 posted on 12/16/2017 5:09:27 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Kaslin; butterdezillion; bitt

I did some more searching & found this vid about Jones winning, errrr cheating

https://video-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-2/25204811_1502695879825624_3035735764450148352_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjY5MSwicmxhIjo1MTIsInZlbmNvZGVfdGFnIjoic3ZlX3NkIn0%3D&oh=71b53d347207294b6d719421a271893e&oe=5A3554DC


234 posted on 12/16/2017 6:15:03 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Kaslin; butterdezillion; bitt

Video of buses

https://video-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-2/25419792_473444053050836_8227852759999709184_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMzNCwicmxhIjo1MTIsInZlbmNvZGVfdGFnIjoic3ZlX3NkIn0%3D&oh=71d399af2d1b4a09d475a80505d3d4bd&oe=5A355539

Posted here:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/26012226159?view=permalink&id=10154945014686160&ref=m_notif&notif_t=group_activity


235 posted on 12/16/2017 6:17:02 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Poison Pill; WildHighlander57

You ignored the other 4(?) things that I listed. This wasn’t just Soros money. This was EVERYBODY WITH POWER going against the man.

You can’t look at the videos of the buses coming into Mobile the night before the election and the video of the ecstatic Jones supporter saying they had come from all over the country to vote and canvass and had gotten their guy elected.... and still say, “People didn’t like what Moore was selling. That’s all this was.”

Have you seen those videos? WH57 posted the links.


236 posted on 12/16/2017 7:00:23 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: reasonisfaith

>>>Seems very reasonable to retain everything, all electronic events and all hard copies

What is reasonable and what is required by law as established by the Alabama legislature are two different things. Do we want judges to make decisions based on what they think is reasonable or what the law actually says?


237 posted on 12/16/2017 8:52:23 AM PST by oincobx
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To: butterdezillion
I didn't see the video, but I believe you. But even with all that, Jones was still 58,000 votes shy of what Hillary got in '16.

The thing is, Moore left 670,000 votes on the table. That is a mind blowing number. But even without those votes, if he had just gotten the write in votes which were most likely Republican protest votes he would have won, even with Democrat tricks.

People here were very hard on Luther Strange who was Trump's original candidate of choice. I think many folks on this forum are having a hard time coming to terms with the fact that they bucked Trump and it blew up in their face.

238 posted on 12/16/2017 9:55:16 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: oincobx

What we want is all electronic records to be retained.

Whatever the case, we can be certain the Jones team, through Soros and others, cheated.


239 posted on 12/16/2017 9:56:07 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Poison Pill

Everybody is second-guessing themselves. Hindsight is 20/20.

My gut feeling is that people think we have the luxury of playing politics. We don’t. We drain the swamp, pronto, or we die. Period. People NEED to see exactly how much danger this country is in. And the media and establishment are not allowing that to happen, because THEY are the danger.

I’m hoping and praying for a miracle. Trump being elected was a miracle, and I hope the Lord uses him to preserve a nation that quite frankly has thrown Him to the curb.


240 posted on 12/16/2017 10:02:49 AM PST by butterdezillion
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