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To: Pinkbell

If the evidence cited in the expose’ of him was accurate (court records, facebook posts, etc) then he’s been messed-up for a long time. Sounds like in trying to reach out to the unchurched he used crazy parties to try to attract the “unsaved”. And things were out of control, such as posting photos to FB of drinking and bare breasts at his “church parties”, etc

Suicide isn’t the answer, and his family has to be devastated. The “reporting” reads like a hit piece but cites records that should be possible to check on. It sounds like he might be a compulsive liar/exaggerator, and very much seeks attention. I just wish he could have gotten help. A person might want to help those in quicksand by jumping right in with them, but you can’t lift somebody out of the pit unless you, yourself, are grounded enough to not just be pulled in. The whole model of “ministry” seems whacked out.

And he’s not the only person who’s gone this way either. A pastor in my denomination was arrested for indecent exposure as he was masturbating in public. He said he was trying to minister to homosexuals. What messed-up times we live in.

I’m sad for this man, sad for his family, sad for the girl who seems to have legitimately gone through what she says, based on the FB posts at the time and the stuff he posted.

The bad part about the witch-hunts like with Roy Moore is that there will be backlash and a tendency to disbelieve all the stories - even the ones that have evidence to back it up, like this one. The liars are hurting the real victims. And the politicization of it all hurts everybody.

Today I’m just really, really sad at the shape my country is in. God, deliver us from our own depravity, stupidity, selfishness, and lovelessness!


48 posted on 12/13/2017 9:12:12 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I have not read the expose. I only saw the general news articles which just said he had been accused but didn’t go into any depth. I will have to look at the expose perhaps. I agree with you, though, that suicide isn’t the answer. If he was as messed up as you say, then he needed to face the consequences and get help, but suicide isn’t a solution.


51 posted on 12/13/2017 9:20:15 PM PST by Pinkbell
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