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Propaganda Works: Majority of Americans Now Believe the GOP Bill Will Raise Their Taxes.
Townhall.com ^ | December 13, 2017 | Guy Benson

Posted on 12/13/2017 12:25:07 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Mariner

Can you provide me with a source for those tools? Thanks.


21 posted on 12/13/2017 12:41:34 PM PST by fwdude (Why is it that the only positive things to come out of LGBT organizations are their AIDS tests?)
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To: Mariner
My taxes go up.

You know, you could make it up if you could convince your state to reduce its sales tax by maybe 2% and eliminate all the other BS taxes that have been imposed on you over the past 10 years..............With the exception of the weather, it sucks living in California doesn't it?........LOL!

22 posted on 12/13/2017 12:42:30 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: CatOwner

“When retirees in high property tax states (CA, NY, TX, FL, etc.) see their federal tax bills rise in 2018, they are going to take that anger into the voting booths in 2020. Good luck GOP and Trump.”

True. But on the bright side, at least the Federal government will be getting their money to fritter away!
(And, yes, that’s sarc re:the pyrrhic tax victory)


23 posted on 12/13/2017 12:43:24 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: rbmillerjr
I agree with you on everything you said. Hence the

BTTT

24 posted on 12/13/2017 12:43:24 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: GOPJ

We can’t ‘sell things to the public’ like liberals do because 99% of newspapers, magazines, and TV content (news and entertainment) are liberal.


That’s it, mostly. It’s also hard to ‘sell things to the general public’ when even our own leadership FAILS miserably at presenting and fighting for OUR causes, legislation, candidates, etc.

The propagandists come in all stripes. Just ask Midge & The RINOs.

They’re having a great laugh, along with their buddies Nan and Chuckie, today.


25 posted on 12/13/2017 12:43:49 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Kaslin

Listen to the Commie media long enough and sheep will believe ANYTHING..honestly I have NO clue how Donald Trump became President..truly was a miracle after what he had to deal with, and still does..the same people who say “I dont believe a word coming from the media” believe every word coming out of the media


26 posted on 12/13/2017 12:43:59 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kaslin

Did that story say Marist College or Marxist College or is there any difference?


27 posted on 12/13/2017 12:45:53 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
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To: Kaslin

Cutting Corporate Taxes along with being revenue neutral (in order to do reconciliation) would necessarily result in an increase of taxes on a fair number of individual peeps.

Do these Libtards and GOPeers not understand Elementary School Math?


28 posted on 12/13/2017 12:46:10 PM PST by Paladin2 (There is no credible evidence that 0sama is a NBC.)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Lots of idiots on FR, buying into the ..”

Hey a$$hole.

I do my own taxes every year. I ran my own calculations.

I also used every online calculator that shows the result of both the House and Senate plans.

In all scenarios my taxes go up substantially.

You’d do well to limit your derogatory commentary to things you actually know something about. In this you appear a fool and a tool.


29 posted on 12/13/2017 12:47:59 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: fwdude

One of them is linked in the source article posted here.


30 posted on 12/13/2017 12:48:44 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Uh, Lotsa peeps live in Calif. w/o paying taxes.

I used to live there long ago in the Golden Daze, but now totally enjoy visiting without being liable for much of the taxation.

It’s a Great Place. To visit.


31 posted on 12/13/2017 12:49:15 PM PST by Paladin2 (There is no credible evidence that 0sama is a NBC.)
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To: Mariner
But that’s ok because they are in CA, right?

Right~! And for what it's worth, I blame YOUR state of California for providing Hillary and the leftwing idiots their constant mantra that "Hillary won the popular election"........

No offense to you bro, you made your choice to live there........

32 posted on 12/13/2017 12:49:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: Hot Tabasco

CA is not raising my taxes.

Congressional Republicans are raising my taxes.


33 posted on 12/13/2017 12:49:36 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I guess those of us whose taxes will go down, are liars. Sorta like deplorables, right Hillary? Jerk.


34 posted on 12/13/2017 12:49:47 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Kaslin

Does the obamacare tax get killed in this bill?


35 posted on 12/13/2017 12:50:05 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Mariner

I did both calculators - House and Senate versions. My taxes go up. If the GOP can’t hold onto a Senate seat in Alabama, lots of luck holding onto Republican House seats in CA, NY, NJ and other states once they pass the Tax Bill.


36 posted on 12/13/2017 12:50:42 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Kaslin

Well then maybe Senator Shelby shouldn’t have spent the weekend trashing Moore and instead been explaining the tax plan during his media interviews. We can see what the GOP priorities are here. Getting out the word about their tax plan clearly isn’t it.


37 posted on 12/13/2017 12:51:55 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Hot Tabasco
You know, you could make it up if you could convince your state to reduce its sales tax by maybe 2%

Not for us. A 2% sales tax reduction wouldn't make up half the expected spike in our federal tax bill for 2018. And for the record, I am not including the loss of the SALT deduction. If included, the federal tax spike is even higher in 2018.

38 posted on 12/13/2017 12:51:56 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Mariner

Dude, you apparently need to back off, Bigly, on being productive and mellow out into the Calif. community of takers.

Turn on, tune in, drop out.


39 posted on 12/13/2017 12:52:13 PM PST by Paladin2 (There is no credible evidence that 0sama is a NBC.)
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To: GOPJ

We can’t ‘sell things to the public’ like liberals do because 99% of newspapers, magazines, and TV content (news and entertainment) are liberal.


Senator Shelby was all over the liberal media last weekend. Was he talking about the tax plan? I’d bet my house he wasn’t. Why do you think that is?


40 posted on 12/13/2017 12:53:43 PM PST by lodi90
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