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To: fruser1
The guy did have his hands in view in front of him - as instructed - up until 3:52 when he disobeyed instructions and 1st reach behind his back. He was screamed at and warned again.

Then at 4:26, when he was in movement as instructed and closer to the cop, he AGAIN reached behind his back and brought his right hand forward very quickly. This spooked the cop into the split second reaction to shoot.

Reasonable people should only expect two thing in situations like this. 1) The guy/perp should not do anything that would make the cop fear for his/her safety and 2) The cop should not shoot until the last possible moment when he/she does fear for his/her safety.

One thing is clear the guy/perp repeatedly caused the cop to fear for his safety even after being repeatedly instructed and warned against moving his hands his back. He didn't even try not give the cop reason to fear and shoot.

The cop did at least try, since he did allow the guy/perp once to reach behind his back with only a warning. But he did not have the nerves of steel and lighting reflexes to hold back when the guy did it again more quickly and when in movement more closer to him. And was spooked into firing - even before seeing something in the guy's hand. (Many cops have been shot and killed waiting longer.)

If all cops were required to have nerves of absolute steel and lightning fast reflexes society would be able to hire only a minuscule fraction of the police force today's crime ridden society requires.

As I said before, "Not the best outcome but an understandable outcome." But as I also said before "the officer did sound like aaahole" and many will judge him only on the basis of that.

77 posted on 12/11/2017 2:30:10 PM PST by drpix
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To: drpix

” nerves of absolute steel”

Just keep in mind the general public has nothing near nerves of steel.

Give me 24 hours with absolute authority without reproach to do what I want, and I can have anyone confessing to the Lincoln assassination.

5 minutes is a long time for a non combat experienced person to endure the treatment he got under threat of violence.

A mistake on the side of the perp was inevitable in this circumstance.

It’s good for cops to go home safe, but it’s good for the public to make it home too.

I agree there was stupidity on both sides. You don’t want the cop hurt but he did choose a dangerous job and is given a great amount of authority and advantage over the public and hence is held to a higher standard.

The perp is an idiot for brandishing a rifle out the window, but he did not come out the room with one either.


88 posted on 12/11/2017 2:45:51 PM PST by fruser1
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To: drpix

The cop is a murderer, plain and simple, and you are a SOB for defending this.


107 posted on 12/11/2017 4:03:06 PM PST by dinodino
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To: drpix

This pro who’s analyzed thousands of shooting videos agrees. Terrible outcome, but the guy reached behind his waist. Didn’t help that he had a blood alcohol level of .29 even though he responded to the officer that he was not drunk.

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168 posted on 12/11/2017 8:51:56 PM PST by ironman
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