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Jerusalem, divided
Washington Examiner ^ | Dec 11, 2017 | Dan Hannan

Posted on 12/10/2017 9:54:21 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: jmacusa

This is one of the big unanswered questions


21 posted on 12/11/2017 1:10:06 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Interesting way to explain it. Do you believe we were pre-known to God? As in, did we exist known to him in some other form prior to our birth and all rebelled in some way, and thus when we are called “all are as filthy rags and wretches” we shouldn’t get too offended because after all we are being given a second chance kind of thing? I mean, it would help make sense of some things.


22 posted on 12/11/2017 1:20:22 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c

People find it hard to imagine what the existence of God would even be like with respect to the existence of people, but that hasn’t stopped philosophers from trying.

C. S. Lewis called it an “eternal now.” IMHO this seems to tie in well with God’s biblical title as “I am.”

The biblical philosophical treatment is sparse. “In Adam all sinned.” The consequences aren’t so sparse.

Anyhow, a lot of people vastly underestimate the divine hope that undergirds their creation. If we were only expected to putter around a bit on earth till we die, and manage not to do something so extravagant as to put ourselves in danger till we die safely, then anything else seems foolish, an excess, a pointless extravagance. But it’s the people who defy such a view whom we will be looking at in retrospect and say “Wow! What a ride.” It’s in relationship to THAT that we are right to evaluate how wretched we are. And that’s pretty jolly wretched. Afraid to do anything but die safely.


23 posted on 12/11/2017 1:31:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: cpdiii
"One must ask why can a Christian, a Muslim, and a Jew pray in Jerusalem at their holy temples in safety and peace, but this can not be done in Medina, Riyadh, Mecca, Tehran, Yemen, Pakistan, Libya, Afghanistan, Baghdad, parts of India, and much of sub Sahara Africa etc? The answer is quite simple. One of the three faiths tenets is expansion of their faith by the sword. It is really that simple and nothing else!!!! Whom brings the violence to these temples? Is it the Jew? Is it the Christian? Is it the Muslim?"

Permission to steal/quote? Very well stated! Thank you.

24 posted on 12/11/2017 1:59:15 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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25 posted on 12/11/2017 4:40:47 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

...It is the status of the Dome of the Rock on the ruins of the ancient Temple...

Mooselimbs have a nasty protocol of pissing upon and razing other peoples culture and history.

That’s why all others have animosity towards mooselimbs.

Mooselimbs should not have built a structure over top of the Jew’s most holy of holies


26 posted on 12/11/2017 6:55:04 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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...The more subtle criticism of Trump’s decision is that the supposedly great deal maker has offered this big symbolic gesture in return for nothing. A card like moving the embassy, which can be played only once, should not be tossed onto the table cheaply. It should certainly not be used simply because domestic headlines are unhelpful, and a distraction is timely...

The two sides are stuck and cannot find a way forward. Trump took the issue off the table.

Trump made the same move in a budget dispute. Both sides were dug in and not negotiating, not moving. Trump declared the trans folks were no longer welcome in the military, therefore breaking the logjam


27 posted on 12/11/2017 6:59:25 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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