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The Police Murder of Daniel Shaver
National Review ^

Posted on 12/10/2017 7:10:13 AM PST by JP1201

If you have the stomach for it, I want you to watch one of the most outrageous and infuriating videos I’ve ever seen. It shows the police shooting of Daniel Shaver in Mesa, Arizona. He was crawling on his hands and knees, crying, and begging police not to shoot him. An officer shot him anyway:

The Washington Post’s account is decent, but you have to watch the video truly grasp the strangeness of the requests:

In fact, the Post actually sugarcoats the encounter. At one point an officer tells him “do not put your hands down for any reason,” even saying, “If you think you’re going to fall, you better fall on your face.” Then he says, “Crawl towards me.” How he can crawl without putting his hands down, I don’t know. As the sobbing man crawls, he reaches back towards his pants (perhaps to pull them up) and is immediately shot dead. He had no weapon. He had done nothing wrong. And now he’s dead.

Essentially, what the police told an innocent, law-abiding, intoxicated American was this: Follow my highly-specific, very strange instructions or die. There was no need to make him crawl. The police were in command of the situation. At no point is there a visible weapon. I have seen soldiers deal with al Qaeda terrorists with more professionalism and poise. When a man is prone, his hands are visible, and your gun is trained upon him, he is in your power. At trial, the officer testified that he though the suspect was reaching for his gun, and that if he had a chance to do things over, he’d make the same decision again. In other words, he presented the classic defense. He was afraid, so he fired.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; banglist; danielshaver; donutwatch; leo; philipbrailsford; shooting
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To: DaveA37
He needed to be given a tougher sentence.

What do you mean, needs to be given a tougher sentence? He wasn't sentenced at all.

21 posted on 12/10/2017 7:39:02 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Da Coyote

Bring federal charges of murder against this ex-cop. Put him in prison for life.


22 posted on 12/10/2017 7:39:59 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: RegulatorCountry; JP1201
Keep your hands in the air legs crossed and crawl.

Apparently you are as stupid as the person he was directing.

Since he wasn't told to keep his hands in the air. He was told to keep his hands pa;ms down on the ground. But then you do not impress me as a very intelligent person to begin with.

23 posted on 12/10/2017 7:41:51 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: JP1201; null and void

24 posted on 12/10/2017 7:41:53 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dinodino; DuncanWaring

Wonder if the Feds will go for a civil rights trial in this case?


25 posted on 12/10/2017 7:43:14 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: JP1201

He had the victim’s total cooperation from the first second of their encounter.

That a$$wipe cop was playing a sadistic 5 minute game of “simon says” with the victim,

I didn’t say “Simon Says!” You die.


26 posted on 12/10/2017 7:43:37 AM PST by PGR88
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To: MileHi

“Don’t know how the jury got this so wrong.”

They voted for Obama and Hillary.


27 posted on 12/10/2017 7:44:25 AM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: eyeamok

I don’t believe that one bit, the vast majority of LEOs abhor this as much as any of us do. Bad apples will be dealt with thru the rulé of law, as they have been in the past.


28 posted on 12/10/2017 7:45:39 AM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Da Coyote
Why hasn't anyone shown this video to Black Lives Matter?

And where are all the white people burning down cities?

Why isn't ANTIFA protesting this? Surely a policeman gunning down an unarmed man in his underwear begging for his life is as "fascist" as you can get...?

29 posted on 12/10/2017 7:47:51 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Robert DeLong

> he wasn’t told to keep his hands in the air <

I think he was. From the article:

At one point an officer tells him “do not put your hands down for any reason,” even saying, “If you think you’re going to fall, you better fall on your face.” Then he says, “Crawl towards me.”


30 posted on 12/10/2017 7:47:58 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: heights

The cop heard talking is not the one who shot him, if I understand correctly. Ironically, he was not charged with anything, though he may be even more responsible for the ultimate outcome.


31 posted on 12/10/2017 7:48:23 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Bonemaker

Probably a safe bet.


32 posted on 12/10/2017 7:48:29 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Little Ray

“Really?
So why aren’t his fellow cops “explaining” to him why he going to resign?
You are not a good cop if you tolerate bad cops.”

They have their own blue wall code of silence. Omerta for the government’s street muscle. See moslem cop murders Australian woman who called for help,


33 posted on 12/10/2017 7:49:51 AM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: bigbob
Bad apples will be dealt with thru the rule of law, as they have been in the past.

Name prominent examples of this, please. I don't believe you can. All I've seen is police backing up the miscreants in their midst and no further consequence of idiotic chickenshit behavior unworthy of Barney Fife such as this.

34 posted on 12/10/2017 7:51:15 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: eyeamok
He is a disgrace to the vast majority of police out there who are defending us.

Police departments across this Great Republic consist of:

1) Violent murderers.
2) People who tolerate violent murderers in their midst.

The police need to police their own ranks, or they will be policed by others. They won't like that.

35 posted on 12/10/2017 7:51:32 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SaveFerris; Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; Shimmer1; ...
JBT Ping list


36 posted on 12/10/2017 7:51:56 AM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: SPRINK

He should have never been given a badge simply because of all of the tattoos. He obviously has mental issues that he’s trying to hide with ink. Put him in a line-up with a bunch of lifer prison inmates and it would he impossible to pick out the cop. That’s what I believe.


37 posted on 12/10/2017 7:52:04 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: Leaning Right
“If you think you’re going to fall, you better fall on your face.”

Putting your hands out to arrest a fall is an involuntary reflex. Killing someone for an involuntary reflex is completely unjustifiable. Threatening to do so demonstrates premeditation and intent. This murderer in a blue costume should hang. Anything less is a miscarriage of justice.

38 posted on 12/10/2017 7:56:14 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SaveFerris

“Bring federal charges of murder against this ex-cop. Put him in prison for life.”

Jesus bring Eric Holder back for Christ’s sake. Much greater likelihood of him doing the right thing than Rip Van Sessions. This homicidal prick should have had US Marshals slap cuffs on him on the way out of the court room.


39 posted on 12/10/2017 7:56:57 AM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: NorthMountain

Had a big fat cop tell me “People need to respect my authority”. I doubt he knows who Cartman is but I’d put his intelligence in the “8 year old” category.


40 posted on 12/10/2017 7:57:07 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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