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California wildfires: Governor brands fires 'new normal'
BBC News ^ | 10 December 2017

Posted on 12/09/2017 10:49:14 PM PST by Olog-hai

Devastating wildfires fueled by climate change are “the new normal”, California’s governor has said.

Jerry Brown said vast fires, such as the ones that have ravaged southern California in recent days, “could happen every year or every few years”.

“We’re facing a new reality in this state,” he said. Mr Brown made the comments after surveying the damage in Ventura County, north of Los Angeles.

Thousands of firefighters have been battling the fires since Monday.

Mr. Brown, a Democrat who has attacked the Trump administration’s stance on climate change, said: “We’re facing a new reality in this state, where fires threaten people’s lives, their properties, their neighborhoods, and of course billions and billions of dollars. With climate change, some scientists are saying southern California is literally burning up.” …

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: climatechangehoax; envirowackos; globalwarminghoax; governormoonbeam; govmoonbeam; lofan; newnormal; wildfires
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

[[New Normal? California has had fires for as long as I can remember! And I am 71 years old now!]]

Just once i’d like to see someoen around 80 or so say on TV “The governor either doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or he’s delusional- There have been wildfires all my life here in cali. This is anything but a ‘new normal’”


21 posted on 12/10/2017 12:15:34 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Olog-hai

If a fire is set by an arsonist is it really a wildfire?


22 posted on 12/10/2017 12:29:16 AM PST by fella ("As it wshas before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Olog-hai

California had a wet year - lots of brush grown when they have water. Then it had a dry year, which turned the brush into fuel. Fuel burns. This isn’t the “new normal”, it’s been normal for California for many generations.


23 posted on 12/10/2017 2:38:14 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: BykrBayb

There he was, 32 years old, eyeing this 12-year-old. He just waited until 2005 to marry her, so he could carry out his sick fantasies under color of law!


24 posted on 12/10/2017 3:06:34 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY)
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To: Gene Eric

Yes, these fires are The New Normal. And for the same reason that heavy security before entry to a commercial airliner is The New Normal.

That is, it’s not about climate. It’s about the character of the people that live there. The ones starting the fires.


25 posted on 12/10/2017 4:11:08 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe he should take that money he’s spending on benefits for illegal aliens and in providing a sanctuary state for them, and spend it on California’s emergency services so they are better able to deal with this.


26 posted on 12/10/2017 5:01:19 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: Olog-hai
They're blaming it on climate change rather than Obama's admin cutting the fuel reduction programs that would have stopped these wildfire from being so catastrophic.

While mourning 19 dead, US again prepares to ax wildfire prevention funds (from 2013)

27 posted on 12/10/2017 5:25:21 AM PST by MarMema (I now choose to live my life as a heterosexual married woman)
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To: Olog-hai

Brown is ample proof of the premise that when one cannot do anything else, one goes into politics.

Brown is a science idiot.

Period.

He could be bested by a good fifth grader. (Er, that is, a private school or home schooled fifth grader.)


28 posted on 12/10/2017 5:37:33 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: BradyLS

My suspicion, as well. For generations, these ELF, Earth First, Antifa types have been setting fires, in an effort to get attention. I’d guess a lot of them start just this way.


29 posted on 12/10/2017 6:07:24 AM PST by Fireone (Lock Her Up! (and 100 of her accomplices))
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To: Olog-hai

Really, growing up we had home movies when we lived in California and my dad took a movie of a forest fire. I guess Brown thought forest fires in California only happened now...


30 posted on 12/10/2017 6:44:51 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Olog-hai

Bama told us poverty was the new normal. Now Brown tells the people of California that fires are the new normal. These guys have a lazy streak, a lack of spine and a deficit of intellectual curiosity.


31 posted on 12/10/2017 7:30:34 AM PST by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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To: Olog-hai

If anyone has any news at all about how these fires started, or if the fire went into Camp Pendleton, please ping me. I keep searching on FR and regular news, and can’t find anything. Especially on how they started. They know but aren’t saying.


32 posted on 12/10/2017 8:31:19 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Pelham

The huge fires up north near Santa Rosa were started by sparking PGE power lines during very strong dry winds, whatever they call their Santa Anas up there.


There were more than several reports of arson. The media does not want the public to know about any arson, especially if started by moslems or illegals.


33 posted on 12/10/2017 8:35:41 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

I also think they know. My guess is it’s arson and economic terrorism. Just too many massive fires in high cost housing areas lately. But that’s just my opinion.


34 posted on 12/10/2017 8:36:17 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

Fire investigators can easily pinpoint causes by going over the point of origin. Downed lines? Road flares? Signs of gasoline or other stuff on the dirt or in ashes? Easy. They know how these fires started. They just aren’t saying. Sure, Santa Ana winds, dry brush, etc but it takes something to start a fire besides weather and fuel. And lightning can be ruled out as there were no storms.


35 posted on 12/10/2017 8:39:06 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: SaraJohnson

A coupla’ years ago, the condition in California was called a “never-ending drought” before it rained and snowed all winter. Solved!


36 posted on 12/10/2017 9:01:31 AM PST by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: little jeremiah

I remember reading that Arizona or Nevada(?) border patrol had caught ‘the group’ responsible for this latest fire but haven’t heard another word about it. Naturally, that means it was ‘dreamers’ or muslims.


37 posted on 12/10/2017 9:07:27 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2020)
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To: Pollard

I remember that too.


38 posted on 12/10/2017 9:44:59 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: bruin66

We have that condition in central Texas, too. The newscasters and weathermen drone on about drought conditions. Then weeks of rains come. Lake Travis fills. Floods wash away homes along the rivers. The trees and grass are as green as ever and everyone complains about allergies and bugs. But…this is only a brief respite, they tell us, as soon as the roads dry the “drought” is back on…


39 posted on 12/10/2017 10:22:10 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Olog-hai

The return to the long term historic pattern of rainfall for the west coast, after a century and a half of wetter than normal weather for California, is the real story.

Fire has been such a prevalent occurrence that native forest species require the heat to release their seeds for sprouting. A managed forest with brush overgrowth, the result of total fire suppression, interferes with native tree renewal.


40 posted on 12/10/2017 11:20:13 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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