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To: NorseViking

I have never understood Ukrainian politics. I do not know who the good guys are or who is bad. The only common denominator seems to be corruption.


2 posted on 12/06/2017 8:54:34 AM PST by buckalfa (Slip sliding away towards senility.)
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To: buckalfa

You are correct, unfortunately. I can’t name a single politician who maintained any sort of decency after getting elected to some office. It’s amazing to watch, actually: there is no gradual decline, just an abrupt turn from positive to negative overnight. Makes me doubt the future of humanity.


3 posted on 12/06/2017 9:28:08 AM PST by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: buckalfa

Saakashvili is a proverbial ‘Chekhov’s gun’ in the circus known as Ukrainian politics. The day he was introduced as an Odessa governor it was clear that the foreign element behind the coup doesn’t expect Poroshenko government to hold for so long and Saakashvili is a replacement.

I believe I am not the one who have seen it and the fact that Poroshenko agreed shows the level of command Obama government had over the coup leaders. I have actually expected Ukrainian deep state to somehow off Saakashvili and blame it on Putin because they believe their corruption is of their own and they don’t want any invasive species like a former Georgian dictator who’d steal for NWO and they’d have pennies. I believe the same foreign forces behind the coup strongly advised them not to do so but since Obama’s regime was near over Ukrainians decided they don’t need an albatross around their neck and it’s safe to act so they’ve booted the guy out.

Of course they should have had asked comrade Soros before.

‘Forced reentry’ of Saakashvili accompanied by rent-a-mob from Poland was a continuation of this circus. We now see a clash between the Ukrainian elites who wanted to con NWO using their assistance to wrestle control from Russia to stay a relevant force and keep pillage Ukraine as an equal player and NWO which sees them for the puppets they are.

It is really enjoyable to see how it would unfold.
If the Ukrainian deep state would win it would be another dent in Obama’s legacy. It won ‘t take long before Russia would swallow them in this case too although they believe in the opposite .

If they would cave it would be an overall loss to everyone. Saakashvili proved to be a dictator and rather warmongering one. He nearly managed to start a WWIII as a leader of a nation ten times smaller than Ukraine. Being in charge of Ukraine you might expect much worse from him. I’d say a full scale war in the East or blocking a gas transit to Europe.

We shall see.


4 posted on 12/06/2017 9:56:38 AM PST by NorseViking
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