Posted on 11/21/2017 10:37:04 AM PST by ForYourChildren
Adam lived over 900 years, they had a lot of children.
Right. Get your update on the "developing scientific view" from an "end times expert". Great idea!
Are you asking why the earth is created before the sun moon and stars on Day 4?
The science discussed in the article in no way confirms the story of Adam & Eve, of course. It’s more WND nuttiness.
Read a book called, “Genesis and the Big Bang” by Dr. Gerald Schroeder. He’s an astrophysicist, and also an Orthodox Jew. In the book (and there are follow-on books, if you’re interested), he claims that there is no dichotomy between science (as we understand it) and religion (as revealed in the Book of Genesis). Then he goes and proves it (well, at least as far as it CAN be proven).
FYI, he says that from G-d’s perspective, the world was created in 6 days. However, using the Theory of Relativity, he showed how the Universe is about 14.4 billion years old, from OUR perspective.
It is an interesting read, even if you don’t believe (or understand) every word. It’ll certainly enlighten anyone who is firmly on either side of the science vs. religion debate - because that was the very purpose of the book, to show the lack of difference between the two.
I agree. Yet I have always found it mysterious that if there were fully human people running around a couple hundred thousand years ago, there is so little evidence of uniquely human activity prior to the last, say, 20,000 years. There is some but very, very little.
NOT Adam and Steve.
Having children by a blood relative works differently for the first family than it does for later entries in the gene pool.
In the 19th Century, there was a fully formed human skeleton found in a coal mine which dated from the Carboniferous - 300,000,000 years ago ... like many of the human made items found in coal (when one had to buy it it big lumps and smash by hand to suitable size), it has disappeared. Coal now days is ground as it is mined and any possible artifacts are ground up as well.
Exactly, your instincts are spot on. We can find bits and pieces of humanity earlier (in scattered locations), but nowhere does it come together in a unified whole until the Neolithic, and specifically in Sumeria.
There has been a lot of study on these subjects. Check out some of the books by Henry M. Morris (both father and son).
Many of science’s greatest lights not only believed in revealed religion but made it their life’s work...like these three priests:
Founder of modern stratigraphy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Steno
Came up with the Big Bang:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Father of modern genetics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel
Darwin considered Asa Gray one of his best advocates...Gray was a devout Christian and said “God himself is the very last, irreducible causal factor and, hence, the source of all evolutionary change.”
So make sure you read nice and widely before giving up on revealed religion.
“Having children by a blood relative works differently for the first family than it does for later entries in the gene pool.”
I todays time, that would seem to be correct.
We need to be careful judging past history with the lens of today.
For example, how long did Adam live? And how could that be possible?
ooops, sorry, I completely misunderstood your answer in my previous response, please disregard my previous post/response to you...
Yes, I agree with your assessment “Having children by a blood relative works differently for the first family than it does for later entries in the gene pool.”
From your link:
“Both the link and global winter theories are highly controversial.”
Doesn’t sound like that’s a good endorsement of “most likely” to me.
“surely if one was a daughter, she could not (or should not) have been Cain’s wife”
Well, there were no laws against incest at that time so it wouldn’t be a case of “could not”. “Should not” is a different matter, but if there were no other option but to marry a sister or let the human race die out, well, what you “should” do may differ from what we think today.
Yes, there isn’t much explanation from scientists as to how fully biologically human beings could run around for 100,000 years or more creating nothing more sophisticated than a stone axe, and then suddenly, a few thousand years ago, we spontaneously develop all the basic elements of civilization, without any biological change happening.
Bottle necks in history at 100,000 70,000 and 50,000 years ago that saw the near wipeout of not only the human genome but various species such as Cheetahs are real and demonstrable. What caused them is debatable.
Toba is just one possible cause.
Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and * there was not a man to till the ground.*
Peter says a ‘day’ with the LORD is as a thousand years ... and God rested the 7th ‘day’.
This says there was NOT a man to till the ground.... After this God formed ‘the’ Adam, the earth's first farmer...
Even recorded history describes the age of the ‘hunter/gathers’, long before farming became a way of life for some.
Who says the development of the basic elements of civilization spontaneously developed? More likely their was a tipping point that changed migrating hunter gatherers to city dwellers. And this was isolated to various locations like Sumatra and elsewhere (Maya etc), and not other places where hunter gatherers were (and still are) until recently fairly primitive.
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