Posted on 11/20/2017 6:46:22 AM PST by mandaladon
Was that a refinery or the pipeline project
to move the crude south southeast Texas:
And what would the US labor cost be?
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2016/01/11/fluor-contracts-to-build-1-billion-refinery-in-mexico/
Irving-based Fluor Corp. has been contracted to rebuild much of a major Mexican refinery in a $1 billion expansion project, the company said Monday.
The national oil company of Mexico, Pemex, authorized the project with ICA Fluor, which is Fluor’s joint venture with Mexico City-based Emprasas ICA energy construction company. Fluor’s share is for $500 million.
The Madero Clean Diesel project at the Madero Refinery in Tamaulipas, Mexico is part of the nation’s effort to modernize and expand its refineries, in addition to making them more environmentally friendly.
“We are very pleased with the performance of ICA Fluor, and this award by Pemex demonstrates the trust and confidence in our joint venture to successfully execute this very significant clean fuels project at the Madero refinery,” Fluor Chief Operating Office Peter Oosterveer said in a prepared statement. “Fluor and ICA Fluor remain fully committed to Pemex and our other clients in the Mexican market.”
The project is expected to finish in early 2018. ICA Fluor is providing the engineering and construction work for two, 25,000-barrel-per-day diesel-producing trains. The project also involves revamping the existing diesel unit, while building more water treatment and hydrogen and sulfur recovery capabilities.
OK, but this refinery had to in design and approval stages for years, not months.
“Literally”?
I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like a pilot project with some new technology
Yep.
That seems to be their plan and it is a good one.
Found it;
Dakota Prairie Refinery, the second refinery in the state of North Dakota, broke ground in March 2013 and was opened in May 2015. It processes crude oil to produce diesel, as well as other hydrocarbons.
The refinery is located two miles west of Dickinson City in Stark County of south-western North Dakota. It is the first greenfield refinery project in the US since the 1970s.
https://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/dakota-prairie-refinery-stark-north-dakota/
Thanks. All I could remember was the pipeline project.
Digging around a bit more and found a list of all refineries in the world which also
list all within the USA. Interesting in that I wasn’t aware there were that many overall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_refineries#United_States
I didn’t know Wikipedia could be searched that way.
That is a pretty impressive list.
We will dominate that market in only a few years MAGA!
Opening a new refinery anywhere five years ago was a bureaucratic impossibility.
This is truly a watershed event, that a new refinery was built in the US.
Amazing.
Nice!
10,000 BPD?
That is a puny crude topping unit that will produce just enough gasoline, diesel and fuel oil for west Texas and NM and perhaps a fart of butane requiring a crew of operators of twelve, at the most.
There is over $40 BILLION in refinery expansions going on in Baytown, Texas alone.
Madero runs 186,000 bbl/d
Whiting runs 430,000 bbl/d
The next round of modernization at Whiting is supposed to start in the spring.
Supposedly over the next 8 years.
Not quite as intensive as the WMP, as far as manpower, but it will still draw a thousand travelers in.
When complete, Whiting will be virtually an ALL NEW plant.
Whiting had to do A LOT of ground clean up, as the earth was trashed from 100+ years of operation. MANY of those with no or scant regulations.
Much different today, from when I was first there 23 years ago.
Can’t imagine what type of regs Madero has. (or doesn’t have)
I don't think two long.
Maybe one long or three long. But definitely not two :)
So was the water coming out of the hole where the little Dutch boy stuck his finger.
Homonyms...they’re of the devil!
Feed stock price is not much of a factor except in the sense of the price spread between crude oil in and product out allowing for a profit margin that is adequate.
Calling this an oil refinery at 10k BPD is quite a stretch in terms of how most people recognize the name. Most of us visualize crude oil in the front with fuels and chemical feed stock products out the back. This 1st phase is extremely small at 10K BPD per day. I read the sourced report and it confirmed my guess that it was a crude oil unit only, far from being an integrated refinery. A crude unit is only the first step in an integrated refinery. The Phase II of the project describes an integrated oil refinery with 1 or 2 crude trains at 50K BPD each.
This new plant probably has one maybe two distillation towers followed by storage tanks. The light overheads might be processed to separate out methane/ethane/propane/butane but I doubt it as there is a huge gas processing plant outside Fort Stockton that would be a good customer for the overheads. Naphtha and gas oils pull off the side of the crude tower. Bottoms from a crude tower could either go to a vacuum tower to scavenge out gas oils leaving behind asphalt grade oil in the bottoms or could be sold as-is.
What has me stumped is water for a refinery. This is an arid portion of West Texas and I assume all surface and subsurface water rights are fully owned. A very rough rule of thumb is that each barrel of oil refined takes about 1 barrel of water. The majority of this is used in washing the crude oil ahead of the crude tower in order to remove salts (chlorides and sulfides). There the heck is there that much surplus water running around West Texas? There are newer technologies involving equipment, chemical treatments and process control that can reduce water usage compared to historic levels but you're still talking about a lot of water.
That's my quick take on this.
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