[Pinkbell]

This is a new poll out. The last one on Real Clear Politics was from a few days ago. The results are better than the Republican Senate poll which had Jones winning by 12. Looking at the poll, unless I read the data wrong, more Republicans were sampled than Democrats.

As far as the allegations:

But do Alabama voters believe the allegations?  Thirty-eight percent think they are true, while 37 percent don’t.  One in four is unsure (25 percent).   Among Republicans, 13 percent believe the allegations against Moore are true and 19 percent think he should drop out.

Voters rate Jones positively by 20 points (53 percent favorable vs. 33 percent unfavorable), while they give Moore a net negative rating by 7 (43-50 percent).  For comparison, Jeff Sessions is in positive territory (51-40 percent), while incumbent Sen. Luther Strange is viewed negatively (37-54 percent).   

Donald Trump won Alabama by 28 points in 2016.  Now voters there split over the president’s job performance:  52 percent approve vs. 47 percent disapprove.  Ratings for McConnell are far more negative, as just 27 percent approve, while 57 percent disapprove.  Moreover, Republicans are three times as likely to approve of Trump (91 percent) as McConnell (29 percent).

I posted about losing the Oklahoma red seat to a Democrat. Another FReeper posted that 3 Republican seats that were reliable in NH went Democrat. Obama's Presidency serves as a cautionary tale. The Republicans failures and infighting has greatly hurt. They should have been knocking out legislation, promoted their legislation, and went on the offense with all these investigations. Never give the Dem media control of the narrative without adequate pushback. Unfortunately, what we are dealing with is a circular firing squad.

By the way, Strange would lose even worse based on this poll.

[Sacajaweau]

And Hillary led President Trump by more than that....in 20 polls.

[CatOwner]

No surprise at the repeat of this poll.

[Kazan]

The Fox News poll was one of the most biased and unreliable in the last election cycle.

Still, it is possible that Moore could have fallen behind.

[davidb56]

So...they are fudging the polls to get Moore to quit. Alabama will decide, and Moore has 3 weeks to prove the establishment has lied again. Ive heard NONE of the accusers have sworn statements to any criminal investigators. I hope Moore stays in the race to the finish....then stomps the crap out of TURDle and breaks his jaw.

[JonPreston]

I understand Shep paid for this one himself.

Moore wins by +5

[JohnBrowdie]

run hard against theoretical senate majority leader chuck schumer. the last time we had a democrat majority leader, we got our healthcare hijacked.

hit it again, and again, and again. then repeat. that’ll bring the defectors back.

[TigerClaws]

About 20% haven’t really made up their mind. More evidence can come out. The other allegations today and (I hear) bombshells tomorrow. Moore is taking a backburner.

Moore needs to reframe this as Alabama vs. the outside meddling media and politicians. Run, like Trump did, as an outisder to both parties. “Dont let the yankees tell us what to do.” That plays.

Only polls I’d believe would be Moore’s internal polling. Wonder what it’s showing.

Why would someone vote for an evil DemonRat over any Republican? I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat dog catcher.

[xzins]

I looked at the pdf. Same poll a month ago before all this had them tied. Unreasonable

Also, they did not release their demographics. They played the cute game of giving percentages.

All of the above a red flag to me.

[o-n-money]

Breitbart forced the Washington Post to put this story out too soon. If election day was the Tuesday that just passed, Moore would have lost miserably. As the WAPO wanted. Right now Moore has recovery time. There are now several weeks for Moore’s lawyers to bring legal action vs those if they are lying.

[Terry Mross]

The Republican party is made up of 2 extremely opposite groups. One is conservative and the other are democrats.

[Bodleian_Girl]

The Birmingham News has been on a rampage against Judge Roy Moore for many years, especially since their alleged lesbian editor took over as the main editor for the 3 largest newspapers in the state of Alabama and Judge Moore came out against sodomite marriage.

I've met her and she is VERY butch.

Kyle Whitmire is an effete "columnist" there (though he's married) and he's written with more vitriol against Judge Moore than anyone, with the possible exception of John "I forgot I declared bankruptcy and I've got a gay brother" Archibald.

They hate Judge Moore and they have made it clear that they do.

Their jobs are also dependent on pleasing their editor. Those 3 papers are owned by Advance and they have laid off over 40% of their employees in the past few years and now only print 3 days a week.

So you have lesbains and leftists calling the shots and maybe a couple of people who are afraid to speak out in fear of losing their jobs.

But this is a hate campaign of the highest order.

http://alamo-girl.com/thedead.htm

[BobL]

I think the Dems played their hand too soon. We still have almost 4 weeks until the election...not sure why they hit so early - even with early voting, they should have waited at least a couple more weeks.

But now I think things are turning...Mo Brooks came out and SUPPORTED him, and for the MOST IMPORTANT reason, which is to stop the Democrats. And with Brooks on board, that should bring a large number of Republicans.

For Moore to actually win, he needs to turn this election into a referendum on D.C. Republicans - I think it’s doable, but he needs some serious grass roots, as in door-to-door, to pull this off. And if anyone can do it, he can!

[tumblindice]

Another push poll, more MSM BS. Moore wins going away.

[9422WMR]

Fox News is the new CNN clone. Nothing but lies.

[tennmountainman]

Here u go Tinkerbell

New Headline and Article From Brietbard.

Democrat Oversample: Fox News Poll Claims Roy Moore Losing Despite Faulty Numbers

Link
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/16/democrat-oversample-fox-news-poll-claims-roy-moore-losing-despite-faulty-numbers/

[butlerweave]

and Doug Jones gets a Free Ride

[Yosemitest]

Read this:

IT’S A FAKE!
Analyst Says Judge Roy Moore Signature Inside Gloria Allred Accuser’s Yearbook Was FORGED



The sevens in 1977 to the right of “Christmas,” are very different from the sevens in the date (12-22-77) above “Old Hickory House.”

“Look at the two versions of the number “7,” tweeted Wictor.

“”12-22-77” and “Olde Hickory House” were written by a different person,” he added.

Next, [Thomas] Wictor points out “the “R” and “y” in “Roy,”” are not written the same way.

The inflection of the “Y” is more pronounced in Moore’ signature as Chief Justice. The “R” is noticeably longer in the signature of Chief Justice, as well.

“During his legal career, Judge Moore became the first full-time Deputy District Attorney in Etowah County, Alabama, and served in this position from 1977 until 1982. In 1984, Judge Moore undertook private practice of law in Gadsden, Alabama,” states Moore’s bio on his campaign website.

“The accuser to this day calls him the District Attorney. He was NEVER District attorney. He was DEPUTY DA. DDA,” says Wictor. ... "

Check out this little fact from TheCipher

Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.

Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends it’s a ‘Fraud’


" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moore’s signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "

From "TigerClaws" :

" ... But (exhibit 2) click on the image in the link.
You can clearly see two different color ink pens were used.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/930205088299257859

Here's that image and a link to its ORIGINAL source :

And here’s one more source:

Live Stream: Moore Campaign Holding Press Conference

“ … Furthermore, after Moore's signature are the initials "D.A.," which Nelson and her attorney say represented were written by Moore because he was district attorney at the time.
But Moore was an assistant district attorney, Jauregui said,
And Moore can't recall ever signing his name with the letters "D.A." after it.
But he had seen it before, Jauregui said, when he was on the bench.

His assistant stamped his signature on papers and then put "D.A." on them, Jauregui said.
That's exactly how the signature appears on the divorce decree that Moore signed, he added. … ”

That's the THIRD Spelling of his assistant.

WHICH ONE IS CORRECT ?

Check out this little fact from TheCipher

Interesting revelation about the signature in the yearbook and where it probably came from.
Turns out Moore was the judge who ruled against Nelson in her divorce case and the signature is exactly how it was on his ruling - explains the D.A. ( which Nelson has ).
Nelson also said she never had contact with him since the "incident"and failed to mention he was the judge in her divorce case.

Roy Moore Attorney Demands Gloria Allred Release Original Yearbook, Contends it’s a ‘Fraud’


" ... "D.A." (District Attorney) initials after Moore’s signature, was recognized by Moore as the initials that his then-assistant, Deborah Adams , used to sign documents. ... "

Here’s one more source:

Embattled GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore's attorney implies his signature in a girl's high school yearbook was a forgery

“ … "Judge Moore looked at that D.A. after that signature," Jauregui said.
“No, he wasn't, he was the assistant district attorney."
He added that Moore's assistant when he was presiding over Nelson's divorce proceedings was named Delver Adams,
who typically stamped his initials on court filings. … ”

And here’s a link to a DIFFERENT SPELLING of that name:

Roy Moore Campaign to Gloria Allred: Release the Evidence to Determine Whether There is Fraud

" … “Judge Moore says he can’t remember ever signing his name with DA after it.
But he had seen it before.
You know where he had seen it ?
When he was on the bench, his assistant whose initials are capital D. A. Delbra Adams would stamp his signature on a document and put capital D. A.
That’s exactly how this signature appears on the divorce decree that Judge Moore signed dismissing the divorce action of Beverly Nelson.” … "

The more I search those different spellings of the assistant's name, the more I'm inclined to believe it was Delbra Adams.
I get results for a Court Specialist at State of Alabama Circuit Clerk's Office Cherokee County.
I also get results as a certified public notary located in Sand Rock, A.
And ... I get results for Delbra Adams in Leesburg , AL. with a lot of A.K.A.s

Debra L Adams, Delbra M Adams, Debbie Adams, Debra Ly Adams, Delbra L Adams, Debble Adams, Debra Adams, Delbra Lynn Adams, Delbra L Admas

[Yosemitest]

Here's an excerpt from Rush Limbaugh's Radio Show:

The Swamp Demands Conformity
Nov 15, 2017

...
RUSH: Here’s Mark in Port Townsend — where’s Port Townsend ?
Port Townsend what?

CALLER: That’s a little bit west of Seattle.

RUSH: In Washington.
Okay. Great to have you with us.
How you doing, sir ?

CALLER: I’m doing great, sir.
I hope you’re doing well yourself.

RUSH: I am under siege today, Mark.
I’m under siege.
The Drive-By Media is after me because I dared to point out that Roy Moore used to be a Democrat.

CALLER: That’s why you get paid the big bucks.
I’m envious of you.

RUSH: (laughing).

CALLER: So the comment I wanted to make was that as a retired law enforcement officer, Jeff Sessions —
I’m speaking as a retired law enforcement officer
— Jeff Sessions says he doesn’t see any reason to doubt these girls’ word.
Well, I see a really good reason.
None of these girls have been put under oath and made a sworn statement under penalty of perjury.
And Gloria Allred should be able to tell you
that is the first thing you do when you get a client,
you depose them and you get their statement on the record,
and then you go from there.
And if they’re not willing to make a sworn statement, that sounds really fishy to me.

RUSH: I take it you don’t believe the women
or you just don’t have enough information yet to make a determination ?

CALLER: You don’t have enough information to make a determination,
but speaking as an ex-cop, I find it fishy that nobody has made a sworn statement.
And about that yearbook thing,
you know, when I was in uniform at a certain time of year
you’d get kids walking up to you all the time wanting you to sign their yearbook.
“Hey, Officer Mark, sign my yearbook.”
And I was only a cop.
Can you imagine how politicians get kids wanting —
doesn’t mean you remember all of them.

RUSH: Hang on.
On the yearbook stuff, folks, for those of you who may not be up to speed on this —
and I doubt there are very many of you
— there are allegations that some of these autographs in yearbooks are forged.
There are conservative blog sites claiming to have evidence by virtue of side-by-side comparison
that somebody other than Judge Moore signed some of these things.
This is the first I’ve mentioned that.
I’m just reacting to you bringing up the yearbooks.

You’re upset with Jeff Sessions.
He’s the attorney general, and he is going ahead and acknowledging that
he believes witnesses before anybody’s been put under oath,
and you think that’s a little unprofessional, right ?

CALLER: It sounds to me like he’s just trying to tread carefully.

RUSH: Well, look, this is politics.
It has its own court, and it’s not a court of law.

CALLER: But these girls are making public statements —

RUSH: They are women.
They are women.

CALLER: Okay, they’re making public statements impugning somebody’s honor.
And somebody with responsibility needs to explain to them,
if you’re gonna besmirch somebody, you gotta put it on the record.

RUSH: No, you don’t.
Only in court.
And this is not in court.
This is in politics.

CALLER: I understand it’s politics,
but Gloria Allred should know what the law is.

RUSH: I’m sure she does.
That’s why she’s not in court and is instead on TV.

CALLER: I just want to make that point, Rush.
Thank you.

RUSH: I’m glad you called, Mark.
Folks, I have to tell you,
I’m having a little fun with this.
No, don’t misunderstand here,
but he’s exactly right, but of course that doesn’t —
there’s a whole different inertia and movement now that is taking place in the world of politics,
and there is no room for doubt.
I mean,
the guy did it, you don’t disbelieve the women.
I mean, that’s something you must subscribe to now.
The women don’t lie,
except if you’re Juanita Broaddrick,
then of course…
that’s the point.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: I was having fun with the caller and his obvious consternation
by confusing what happens in politics with what happens in the law,which is ironic,
because the laws are written by these people.
But what happens there
apparently the law doesn’t matter first and foremost.
Find it funny.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Steve in Rochester, Minnesota.
Great to have you with us, sir.
How are you ?

CALLER: Hey, good.
Thanks, Rush. Dittos.
I’ve been listening since 1991.
So I was reading through a Fox News story on the various senators,
Republican senators and their comments about this whole situation,
and I read read ’em one after another; there were many.
And I was thinking as I got most of the way through it,
this sounds a lot like your media montages, vis-a-vis gravitas,
that I often hear on your show.
The similarities were striking in what they said.
And it was an observation that led me to think that
this is really a coordinated attack.
And I think that should be the focus, not the “he said, she said,”
but the fact that
this guy’s being attacked by the establishment, big time.

RUSH: Let me put it to you another way in the form of a question.
Interesting observation, by the way, that you,
in reading and listening to all of the different people opposing Judge Moore,
they’re all saying the same thing, is that your point ?
Just like when Cheney was mentioned as the potential vice presidential nominee for George W. Bush,
about 85 media people all said,
“That’s gravitas.
This is to provide gravitas.”
They all had that word.
You think the same thing’s happening here with the response to Judge Moore ?

CALLER: Yes.
Exactly.

RUSH: Okay.
So do you think —
let me just ask you point-blank
— do you think that, whether he did it or not, he’s being railroaded ?

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: Interesting.

CALLER: Yep. I think this is a coordinated attack,
and what spurred me to think this
was your comments yesterday about Mitch McConnell attacking Bannon’s choice.
And I thought
how else could you do this ?
Here we are a month away from the election.

RUSH: Let me tell you something.
I don’t think there’s any doubt here.
When Bannon went public and said that
Judge Moore was the first of many candidates they’re gonna support
in order to oust the Republican leadership,
I don’t think there’s any question here that McConnell’s reacting to that.

Let me just ask you this.
Have any of you ever,
do you ever remember Mitch McConnell or the Republican leadership ever going after a Democrat
the way they’re going after — (interruption)
You don’t remember.
You don’t remember McConnell ever going after a Democrat the way they’re going after …

[poinq]

People in Alabama need to understand this is not a vindication of Moore. This is not a trial. This is a decision. Who is going to vote the way you would like therm to vote in the Senate. That is what matters. Moore will not get a huge amount of money. He will go there and vote for you. But Jones will spend 6 years voting the way you would never want.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. Moore may have done the wrong thing. But there is no reason Alabama shouldn’t be heard in the US Senate for 6 years because of what he did. This is not who is the better person. This is who will vote for Alabama.

[backwoods-engineer]

This poll is just another part of the attack on Roy Moore. I am voting for him no matter what.