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To: ripnbang; All

http://txb.life/article/guns-in-the-pews-churches-have-the-right-to-choose

Beginning January 1, 2016, Texans with a handgun license will be allowed to openly carry their handguns. Churches in Texas may prevent handgun license holders from carrying handguns inside church buildings as long as the church gives proper notice. Each church may decide for itself whether to allow:

Both open and concealed carry of handguns
Concealed carry of handguns but not open carry
Open carry of handguns and not concealed carry
No handguns regardless of whether they are carried openly or concealed

A church does not need to take any action if it wishes to allow handgun license holders to conceal carry or open carry in church buildings. If permitting handgun license holders to conceal carry or open carry on church premises is a cause of concern to your church, Texas Penal Code Sections 30.006 and 30.007 provide clear rules for notifying handgun license holders that your church is a gun-free zone or concealed carry only.

In order to provide notice that a church prohibits either concealed carry or open carry the church must provide written communication to gun license holders. This written communication may be done in one of two different ways. Either churches may provide notice on a document that is handed out to all members and guests as they enter the building (e.g. a church bulletin or worship guide) or churches may post a sign on the property.

If the church chooses to notify license holders by posting a sign, the sign must be in both English and in Spanish, appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height, and be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public. Regardless of whether a church chooses to provide notice through a document, sign, or both, the language for the written communication must be identical to the following:


141 posted on 11/05/2017 12:50:25 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: Right Wing Assault

So, was there a sign as described by the law?


171 posted on 11/05/2017 1:02:05 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Right Wing Assault; Simon Green; exnavy; RKBA Democrat; Louis Foxwell; ripnbang; All
Instead of posting half-@$$3d, ignorant one-liner comments, I took the trouble to research and extract Texas law. I’ve only read about 200 comments, yet didn't see a factual, sourced post on Texas law — until I read Right Wing Assault’s #141...

Thanks, Right Wing Assault!

Here's what I found:

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The original TX carry law DID prohibit carry in church:
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TEXAS PENAL CODE TITLE 10. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND MORALS
CHAPTER 46.
WEAPONS

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.

(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's person:

(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established place of religious worship. [P.C.46.035(b)(6)]

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Fortunately, in 1997, the above [P.C.46.035(b)(6)] prohibition was repealed by [P.C.46.035 (i)] -- which is printed several pages farther down the page below [P.C.46.035(b)(6)]:
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(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

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IOW, licensed Texans may legally carry concealed in Church -- if no 30.06 sign is posted.
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A legal discussion of this change -- and the TX Legislature's clumsiness in enacting it -- may be found at:

http://www.lapinlawtx.com/firearms-blog/texas-concealed-carry-in-places-of-worship

373 posted on 11/05/2017 7:55:05 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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