Posted on 11/04/2017 11:04:21 PM PDT by Zakeet
"What disgusts me about Kevin was how safe he did feel. He knew he could fondle me in a room with my father and that I wouldn't say a word. And I didn't," the actor wrote in a column for Buzzfeed News.
Harry Dreyfuss, son of Richard Dreyfuss, has come forward to share his own experience with Kevin Spacey, who has been accused of harassment and assault by over 10 men.
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Well, if you understand the nature of the commitment of the priesthood, you would understand why priests are not allowed to get married.
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Yes I am very familiar with this doctrine. However do you understand this church practice was only in force since 1139 AD. And do really understand why they put this in force?
After all, many of Jesus’s disciples were married.
The reason for the change is not what you think. It was so the church could retain it’s wealth. Before the celibacy rule, the church lost wealth to the surviving spouse of the priest.
If you withhold something that is so natural to people, ESPECIALLY in men, like regular sex, it will come out SIDEWAYS.
People need to wake up to the greed not only in government but in religion...
You are correct. However, there is much more the church can do to reduce this to almost zero. I do not think it will happen under our present quasi Marxist pope.
Excellent Post!
“Vatican II may have made it acceptable for admitted homosexuals to enter seminary”
I don’t think it did.
“but the problem of homosexuals in the Roman Catholic priesthood goes back at least a thousand years”
Satan is ageless and timeless. He has been attacking God’s work for much longer than that.
“However, until Vatican II,”
Do you know which of the documents of VatII legitimizes sodomy? I could be wrong, but I think that is one of the abuses blamed on VatII that doesn’t actually appear in the documents.
“It was so the church could retain its wealth.”
Fake history narrative. I believe that you sincerely believe it, but you should put more effort into researching it before you continue to spread it.
By all means, continue to believe in your church’s history.
At this point, what difference does it make?
“By all means, continue to believe in your churchs history.”
I was (unfortunately) talking to a liberal this morning, and that was precisely her attitude.
Just as smug as she was wrong.
Not a liberal, but may you find peace and comfort.
Vatican II doesn’t legitimize sodomy. My understanding of it is that they reasoned that, since a priest was to be celibate anyway, then a man with homosexual desires could still be a priest since he would not be acting on his desires. Acting on one’s sexual desires, whether normal or homosexual, was still forbidden.
Straight men don’t “turn gay” just because they can’t get married.
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I am not saying this at all... I am stating when the church denies men from sex/marriage and allow gay men in large numbers, you will have the sex abuse that is wide spread in the Catholic Church. Many straight men stay out of the Priesthood for the obvious reasons. And this what I mean by coming out sideways. The church tries to stop something natural between a man and a woman and tragically attracts gays and child abuse.
Lots of gay men like Kevin Spacey fill the church. These guys are into pederasty.
The marriage question caused the gay problem. You can’t or refuse to see this. The Church is dying a death by their own doing. Allow priests their wives or continue the downward spiral.
“then a man with homosexual desires could still be a priest since he would not be acting on his desires.”
Unconscionable cynicism.
Luke 17:1-4
7 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. 2 It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. 3 So watch yourselves.
"If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."
NIV
>>At this point, what difference does it make?
Well, if Romans Chapter 1 is any indicator - it would be about the "point" a culture of self-worshiping perversion destroys itself by, among other things, subverting reproductive fitness.
XX + XX = FAIL
XY + XY = FAIL
XX + XY = Human
I believe Satan truly exists and is in full push right now...Priests, Popes, etc. are his favorite targets. I do not have much faith in our Pope either...but, the Catholic Church has survived other bad Popes and I believe will survive this one. Perhaps we shall see the Church survive even to the gates of hell as the Bible says...
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